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MEIKLE David birth registration 1777 - Deciphering please
« on: Thursday 12 October 17 13:16 BST (UK) »
Can anyone decipher please - birth copy of David Meikle, son of David Meikle and Elisabeth Haugh.

Ecclesmachan 19 April 17..... (00 or 1708 or 1888??
David Meikle lawfull son to David Meikle Indweller in ........... ........ ​
and Elizabeth Haugh was born in the ..........
............ day of July 1777 and baptised  .... July before these
witnesses  ...... Meikle and Andrew Cumminghan.

The word 'Indweller' in the 1770s meant?

Thanks for your help in advance.
JKH
Angus County Scotland, Ford, Meikle, Pullar
Caven County, Ireland - Crosby, Kirr
England: Hodson(Bristol) and Flooks
NZ - Ford, Hodson, Sutton
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Re: MEIKLE David birth registration 1777 - Deciphering please
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 12 October 17 15:02 BST (UK) »
Indweller=Resident. Has the clerk written Haugh twice?

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Re: MEIKLE David birth registration 1777 - Deciphering please
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 12 October 17 15:12 BST (UK) »
Indweller in ?Londsdale Haugh?

Born the [?the repeated] first day of July 1777

Witnesses John Meikle & Andrew Cunningham
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: MEIKLE David birth registration 1777 - Deciphering please
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 12 October 17 15:24 BST (UK) »
Indweller in ?Londsdale Haugh?

Born the [?the repeated] first day of July 1777

Witnesses John Meikle & Andrew Cunningham

Mayde Lauderdale Haugh?
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Re: MEIKLE David birth registration 1777 - Deciphering please
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 12 October 17 15:25 BST (UK) »
Yes, good spot [?guess !!] Philip.

Can't find any suitable place name here
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=15&lat=55.9492&lon=-3.5098&layers=168&b=1
but earliest OS map seems to be 1880s.

ADDED:
National Records of Scotland http://catalogue.nrscotland.gov.uk/nrsonlinecatalogue/welcome.aspx have these plans, some are contemporary [no idea of scale]:
RHP6827   Sketch plan of Philip Thomson's farm of Ecclesmachan and part of Drumforth (1-2)   1778   Access conditions may apply - please click on reference to display details. Check details
RHP6828   Contents list of the lands, houses and inhabitants of Ecclesmachan, "by a New Argument and according to a Plan of these Lands" (1-2)   1785   Access conditions may apply - please click on reference to display details. Check details
RHP6829   Plan of the farms of Gateside, Three Miletown, Mounthooly, Auldcathie, Wrae, Trinlymyre, Lampinsdub, Waterstone, Drumforth, Hillend, Kirklands, and Ecclesmachan   1788   Access conditions may apply - please click on reference to display details. Check details
RHP6830   Plan of some houses and yards in the village of Ecclesmachan   1796   Access conditions may apply - please click on reference to display details. Check details
RHP11562   Photostat copy of sketch plan of the lands of Ecclesmachan   1785 Open
RHP14588   Plan of the estate of East Binny, belonging to Robert Stewart   1788   This record is Open. [has a reference to a Langdalehaugh....but it's in parish of Linlithgow]
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: MEIKLE David birth registration 1777 - Deciphering please
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 12 October 17 17:42 BST (UK) »
Yes, good spot [?guess !!] Philip.

Cheeky!  ;D

google doesn't throw up anything for Lauderdale Haugh or Lauderdalehaugh, but I am fairly sure that's what the document reads.

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Re: MEIKLE David birth registration 1777 - Deciphering please
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 12 October 17 18:41 BST (UK) »
Ecclesmachan 19 April 1708
David Meikle lawfull son to David Meikle Indweller in
Lauderlader haugh (heigh)? and Elizabeth Haugh was born in the first
first day of July 1777 and baptised  ....? July before these
witnesses  John? Meikle and Andrew Cumminghan.

Thanks - such a great response.... 
Looking for hints from David's background but nothing suggests he or his family moved around much.  Married Agness DICK in Linlithgow, West Lothian. David's father - is written; born in Abercorn, LInlithgow, also children born either in Abercorn or Linlithgow.
Maybe 'Lauderdale Haugh or Lauderdalehaugh' is the part of the property/estate/house of the Earl of Lauderdale?  I have just goggled via 'ScotlandsPlaces - Parish of Lauder - Lauderhaugh!
Jean - NZ branch of Meikle & Ford

https://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/digital-volumes/ordnance-survey-name-books/berwickshire-os-name-books-1856-1858/berwickshire-volume-28/88
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NZ - Ford, Hodson, Sutton
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Re: MEIKLE David birth registration 1777 - Deciphering please
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 12 October 17 18:49 BST (UK) »
The initial date is 178[ ]. Could be 1780 or 1788.

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Re: MEIKLE David birth registration 1777 - Deciphering please
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 12 October 17 19:18 BST (UK) »
The initial date is 178[ ]. Could be 1780 or 1788.

Most likely - 1788.  David is born Jul 1, 1777 but first written in the church book in 1788! 

Enclosed top page entry. I have wondered abt that date! 

Death Roll 1851
David Meikle died at South Queensferry on the 2nd of Dec and was buried here on the 5th of the same, aged 75 yrs.
Angus County Scotland, Ford, Meikle, Pullar
Caven County, Ireland - Crosby, Kirr
England: Hodson(Bristol) and Flooks
NZ - Ford, Hodson, Sutton
Canada, USA, Denmark ..