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Who is Elizabeth/Lizzie/Eliza Brophy's father
« on: Thursday 12 October 17 18:57 BST (UK) »
Hi all,
I have attached what i have on my paternal great grandmother in the hope that i can confirm her father's name once and for all,is it John as she states or Joseph ?
On her marriage in 1898 it gives her father as being John Brophy and in 1901 ( Lizzie Cormack ) with a Brophy family as daughter to John head of family and in 1911 (Elizabeth McCormac ) with my grandfather John age 12.
BUT the only birth record I can find is one for Elizabeth Brophy dau of Joseph Brophy and Mary Carty and is around the correct year.
 I have searched for births with second name Elizabeth just in case she goes by an alternate name but not found any and her death record also states Elizabeth on the entry.
Does anyone else on here have her on their tree and would welcome suggestions or opinions as to which father seems more likely.
For now I have her with Joseph and Mary B as their daughter as opposed to John and Mary B until I can prove either way.
I do apprediate all help received

Many thanks for viewing

Scatty



Fitzgerald/Mullane/Riordan/Heaphy,  Doneraile,Co Cork
McCormack/ Brophy/Egan/Gavin, Tullamore,Co Offlay
Penfold / Seaman / Bannister / Donovan/Hines/Cowell/ Hance and Dunningham

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Re: Who is Elizabeth/Lizzie/Eliza Brophy's father
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 12 October 17 19:07 BST (UK) »
can you post links please?

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Re: Who is Elizabeth/Lizzie/Eliza Brophy's father
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 12 October 17 19:55 BST (UK) »
Hi hallmark,
Attached birth and marriage under my message but sorry ,don't know how to attach census links.
Need some IT tips on that.
Thanks for asking.
Fitzgerald/Mullane/Riordan/Heaphy,  Doneraile,Co Cork
McCormack/ Brophy/Egan/Gavin, Tullamore,Co Offlay
Penfold / Seaman / Bannister / Donovan/Hines/Cowell/ Hance and Dunningham

Essex / Middlesex / Kent / Suffolk and wherever next
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Who is Elizabeth/Lizzie/Eliza Brophy's father
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 12 October 17 20:00 BST (UK) »
Just paste them in your post

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Re: Who is Elizabeth/Lizzie/Eliza Brophy's father
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 12 October 17 20:28 BST (UK) »
Joseph Brophy ,Barrack St died 1903 he was a Carpenter and a WIDOWER informant was Lizzie Brophy
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05670/4597104.pdf

Mary Brophy died Barrack St 1898 age 50 a Carpenters wife informant Lizzie Brophy daughter Barrack St
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1899/05804/4642776.pdf

Hmm
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Tullamore_Urban/Barrack_Street_Upper/1471729/

Christina Brophy born dec 1879
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5BB-743

upper and lower Barrack St

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Re: Who is Elizabeth/Lizzie/Eliza Brophy's father
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 12 October 17 21:15 BST (UK) »
in 1911 (Elizabeth McCormac ) with   grandfather John age 12.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/King_s_Co_/Tullamore_Urban/Pensioners_Row/561768/

She is born Dublin

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Re: Who is Elizabeth/Lizzie/Eliza Brophy's father
« Reply #8 on: Friday 13 October 17 17:03 BST (UK) »
Thank you hallmark and dathai for all your efforts.
 I had gotten myself into quite a muddle with this but due to your efforts I have discounted Lizzie Brophy dau of Joseph Brophy, carpenter and Mary Carty because mine had married and was Lizzie McCormack/Cormack by 1898 and 1903 when the other Lizzie was informant/present for her parents deaths.

My problem is with Lizzie Brophy- McCormack's birthplace and birth record
In 1911 says born Dublin ( her missing husband Peter was born Dublin ) thats another problem I'm trying to solve.
In 1901 says  born Kings,same is rest of family,
Seems unlikely but I guess it may have been possible for her to have been the only child born elsewhere.
I have her siblings Tullamore births but in regard to her birth there was only one found ie the other Lizzie.
So back to the drawing board for now

Thanks again,much appreciated

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/King_s_Co_/Tullamore_Urban/Pensioners_Row/561768/


http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Tullamore_Urban/Barrack_Street_Lower/1471670/

Fitzgerald/Mullane/Riordan/Heaphy,  Doneraile,Co Cork
McCormack/ Brophy/Egan/Gavin, Tullamore,Co Offlay
Penfold / Seaman / Bannister / Donovan/Hines/Cowell/ Hance and Dunningham

Essex / Middlesex / Kent / Suffolk and wherever next
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk