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Marriage John Smith with Caroline Godfrey 1888 in Paris
« on: Saturday 14 October 17 08:39 BST (UK) »
Who could help with this marriage ?
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Re: Marriage John Smith with Caroline Godfrey 1888 in Paris
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 14 October 17 09:14 BST (UK) »
13th February, 1888
John Smith, Bachelor of the Parish of Leiston in the County of Suffolk and Caroline Godfrey, Spinster of the Parish of London in the County of Middlesex were married in this house with the consent of Her Majesty`s Ambassador.  Both signed.  Witnesses were Ralph and Louise Herring.

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Re: Marriage John Smith with Caroline Godfrey 1888 in Paris
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 14 October 17 09:31 BST (UK) »
Oh, thank you. FreeBmd gives 3 "John Smith" in the district of Blything (I found that Leiston is in the district ,say it if I am wrong) how can I  refine the search before ordering a certificate ?

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Re: Marriage John Smith with Caroline Godfrey 1888 in Paris
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 October 17 10:06 BST (UK) »
Blything is correct for the Registration District, but its going to be difficult narrowing his birth down without a fathers name on his marriage certificate.  I can`t understand why there are two marriage dates for them. The details I gave you came from the orginal image, however Family Search have the date as 16th March.  I will go and see if i can find out.

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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Lancs: Harrison, Entwistle, Devine, Grundy, Ashworth, Freeman, Jackson, Rushton
Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
Devon: Martin, Walter(s)

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Re: Marriage John Smith with Caroline Godfrey 1888 in Paris
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 October 17 12:09 BST (UK) »
What is the second date? we have 13th february 1888 and ?You saw the original act? Is the birthdate of John written?

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Re: Marriage John Smith with Caroline Godfrey 1888 in Paris
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 October 17 12:47 BST (UK) »
The original image on Ancestry shows the marriage date as 13th February, 1888.
Family Search shows the date of marriage as being 16th March, 1888 but there is no image available to check if it was a mistake.

No other information was on the marriage record.  Not even any ages.  The only thing I missed off was the name of the Chaplain who married them.

Can I ask where his year of birth came from?
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Lancs: Harrison, Entwistle, Devine, Grundy, Ashworth, Freeman, Jackson, Rushton
Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
Devon: Martin, Walter(s)

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Re: Marriage John Smith with Caroline Godfrey 1888 in Paris
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 October 17 13:19 BST (UK) »
Yes, of course . I asked for a french person who does not speak english , well enough to come on rootschat anyway. She got it from Ancestry . I asked on this forum because I hoped that somebody could have infos from other sources (if such other sources exist). She 'd like to find the parents of John and his birthdate and place of birth, she'd been searching them for 2 years.


I agree that 16 must be a mistranscription.

Added : maybe John is in the Census of Leiston, Suffolk, 1851, 1861, 1871 , 1881?

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Re: Marriage John Smith with Caroline Godfrey 1888 in Paris
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 October 17 14:28 BST (UK) »
There is only one John Smith on the census with that year of birth plus or minus a couple of years and born Leiston.  The problem being that he appears to be still in Suffolk on the 1891 census.  That was why I was asking where his year of birth had come from.
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Lancs: Harrison, Entwistle, Devine, Grundy, Ashworth, Freeman, Jackson, Rushton
Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
Devon: Martin, Walter(s)

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Re: Marriage John Smith with Caroline Godfrey 1888 in Paris
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 October 17 15:01 BST (UK) »
Searching all census years for a John Smith born Leiston with no year of birth added brings up only two - one born 1851 (he was 3 months old on the 1851 census) and the one born in 1858 who is still there in 1891 onwards.  The one born in 1851 "disappears" after the 1871 census where he was a butchers shopman in Rochester, Kent.  There is no sign of him after that.  His parents were Thomas, a Blacksmith and wife Harriet(t). Worth a thought!

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PS just found one born 1869.
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Lancs: Harrison, Entwistle, Devine, Grundy, Ashworth, Freeman, Jackson, Rushton
Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
Devon: Martin, Walter(s)