Irene rose Crowe family tree

[heywood]

Hello,

Free BMD https://www.freebmd.org.uk shows several births for Whiston with a mother Kelleher. These will help with your family tree.
You will need to get a birth certificate, as has been advised, to find her parents first names.

Heywood

Hi Heywood iv tried BMD but think it's not showing as they were originally from Ireland
Cheers

Confused again- who is not showing?
Irene’s birth is there together with other children from the same parents.

[chempat]

There are 5 births showing on free bmd, can post this one as you say she has died:
Births September quarter 1952 in Salford
 Irene R Whiston mmn Kelleher   

That would be Mother's maiden surname Kelleher, mother's married name Whiston. 

When do you think she left Ireland, as 5 children born in Salford?

[Bluemgf1066]

There are 5 births showing on free bmd, can post this one as you say she has died:
Births September quarter 1952 in Salford
 Irene R Whiston mmn Kelleher   

That would be Mother's maiden surname Kelleher, mother's married name Whiston. 

When do you think she left Ireland, as 5 children born in Salford?

Hi yes me too confused 🤔 It's defiantly the Births September quarter 1952 in Salford
 Irene R Whiston mmn Kelleher - I'm thinking she was born in Salford and her mother fled Ireland while pregnant with Irene with the birth saying Salford - but I'm absolutely bobbing with this 😩 Especially with the grandmother Irene's mother being very strict old school Irish lady you dare not ask questions - I know Irene was pregnant at 15yrs old & had 4 children cheers guys for your help 👍🏼

[chempat]

Could you give us Irene's mother's name, please?

[Bluemgf1066]

Could you give us Irene's mother's name, please?

Iv

Could you give us Irene's mother's name, please?

just sent a message mate so probably be tomorrow now as its delicate as its a surprise tree mate
Thanks

[chempat]

The marriage for Irene was in 1969, and then 4 children show.

Did she also have another child before marriage, at age 15?

[Bluemgf1066]

The marriage for Irene was in 1969, and then 4 children show.

Did she also have another child before marriage, at age 15?

Could of been chempat  who knows I'm trying to think of bits I was getting if Irene died 2011 age 59
Hmmm I wonder

[Bluemgf1066]

The marriage for Irene was in 1969, and then 4 children show.

Did she also have another child before marriage, at age 15?

Could of been chempat  who knows I'm trying to think of bits I was getting if Irene died 2011 age 59
Hmmm I wonder

Or maybe the baby was put up for adoption with her being so young back then & unmarried??

[heywood]

Hi yes me too confused 🤔 It's defiantly the Births September quarter 1952 in Salford
 Irene R Whiston mmn Kelleher - I'm thinking she was born in Salford and her mother fled Ireland while pregnant with Irene with the birth saying Salford - but I'm absolutely bobbing with this 😩 Especially with the grandmother Irene's mother being very strict old school Irish lady you dare not ask questions - I know Irene was pregnant at 15yrs old & had 4 children cheers guys for your help 👍🏼

Is it a family story that someone fled Ireland whilst pregnant?

Irene isn't the first child born in that family so presumably her mother left Ireland before the first birth, not Irene's.
There are four children showing to Irene's marriage - you say she had 4 - so seems correct and her marriage was before the birth of her first child so all seems in order.

The evidence from civil registers doesn't fit with the story.