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Offline PAK

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Remarkably quick wedding
« on: Saturday 14 October 17 20:17 BST (UK) »
I am looking at the incredibly complicated story of Effie Field, originally May Kent. I have found that she emigrated from the UK to USA and arrived in New York aboard the SS Carmania on 22nd October 1907. She is recorded as a married woman. named Effie Field.

However, a marriage record (also found for me by a helpful Rootschatter) shows that she married Edward Field - on 22nd October 2007. That record shows her as "Effie Hime" which is actually the name of her aunt, but her parents details are correct, which is how I managed to make the connection.

I have assumed that Edward had emigrated some time earlier, though I can't find him on any immigration records. It also transpires that he already had a wife and family in Lancashire. This is only one of a series of complexities in this family but, leaving them to one side, I have two questions :
1) can anyone help me to pinpoint the details of his travel out?
2) would it be possible for her to arrive, pass through immigration and then get married all on the same day? Wouldn't they have had to give notice?

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Re: Remarkably quick wedding
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 14 October 17 20:52 BST (UK) »
Think you meant the marriage took place in 1907 rather than 2007?

I've seen other instances where a bride got married the day she got off the boat or sometimes the next day. Have you looked at both pages of the passenger manifest? should say who she was going out to in America (perhaps her fiancé).

Have you tried searching for Edward departing from a U.K. port? (Find My Past and Ancestry have the lists but not sure where else available). It's possible he landed in Canada then travelled to New York so don't rule out Canadian ports.
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Re: Remarkably quick wedding
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 14 October 17 22:51 BST (UK) »
Something is not matching up.

The Carmania docked in New York on 3rd October (left Liverpool 24th September) and 30th of October (left Liverpool 22nd October) in 1907.
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Re: Remarkably quick wedding
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 October 17 22:56 BST (UK) »
Other thread gives 30 Oct.1907 as marriage date  :-\

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=765161.msg6169812#msg6169812
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Re: Remarkably quick wedding
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 15 October 17 10:07 BST (UK) »
I've seen other instances where a bride got married the day she got off the boat or sometimes the next day. Have you looked at both pages of the passenger manifest? should say who she was going out to in America (perhaps her fiancé).

Perhaps the ship's captain married them on voyage?
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Re: Remarkably quick wedding
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 15 October 17 10:31 BST (UK) »
The marriage date fits with the arrival of the Carmania on 30 Oct.1907.

What I can see online is an extract of the marriage-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24HY-GDT

The actual certificate should say exactly where it took place and who performed the ceremony.
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Re: Remarkably quick wedding
« Reply #6 on: Monday 16 October 17 00:37 BST (UK) »
Time travellers  >:(
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Re: Remarkably quick wedding
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 October 17 14:38 BST (UK) »
Apparently, marriage licenses weren't required in New York City until 1908 - https://web.archive.org/web/20010707143113/http://www.nygbs.org/Info/articles/NYC_marriages.html - so it may have been a faster process before then. 

The 2nd page of Effie's passenger list says that she was going to join husband Edward Field and was discharged to her husband.  It gives his address as New York City, but I find the street address rather hard to read.  It looks like 3326S 22 St., but that's not a typical address you would see in NYC, so the handwriting has probably messed it up.

When is the latest date you have Edward in England?

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Re: Remarkably quick wedding
« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 October 17 16:32 BST (UK) »
Might be Edward in 1901. Boarder in Huddersfield, says he's married but no family with him.

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