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Catherine Thomson c1837
« on: Sunday 15 October 17 03:42 BST (UK) »
hi

I'm looking for a little help in identifying a birth for Catherine Thomson.
What I have so far :
Catherine Thomson married George Allister on the 25.10.1860 at Dunfermline.
Catherine gives her parents as : John Thomson (Labourer) and Christina Thomson maiden name Walker.
I have them on the 1861 Census where she gives her Birth year as 1837 and the place as Ceres, Fife. George gives his birth year as 1837 and his birthplace as Dunfermline, Fife.
In 1871, 1881 and 1891 the family are in Carstairs, Lanarkshire.
Catherines Birth years doesn't vary much 1835-1837.
Catherine dies on the 18th May 1908 at Carstairs aged 73 years. Again her parents are listed as John Thomson (General labourer) and Christina Walker.
George dies in 1922 in Dunfermline.

I have been trying to identify her and her parents on earlier censuses and thought I had Identified a family and followed that family to Dysart in Fife where Catherine Thomsons mother ( who I thought was Christina / Catherine Walker) died in 1885 but the death cert fro this Catherine Thomson shows her father as Peter Kerr and her mother as Catherine Mitchell, previously Kerr maiden name Grant. So I have made a mistake somewhere! I cant seem to find a marriage for John Thomson and Christina Walker or indeed an birth or death for Christina Walker.
So basically I'm looking for help to identify Catherine Thomson and her family before she marries George Allister in 1860. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Laura  :)
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Re: Catherine Thomson c1837
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 15 October 17 04:13 BST (UK) »
Have you tried variants with 'wildcards allowed' or 'Fuzzy Matching' options of the names such as Thom*son (Thompson) & Christ**n (Christian)?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Catherine Thomson c1837
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 15 October 17 04:46 BST (UK) »
Hi thanks for replying

yes I have tried fuzzing matching.  :)
I have put in Catherine Thomson (Wildcards allowed and fuzzy matching) birth range 1830-1840 area Fife, Father John and I get only 3 possibilities

CATHARINE THOMSON -Parents ANDREW THOMSON/CATHARINE JOHNSTON  30/08/1836   

CATHARINE THOMSON  Parents - JOHN THOMSON/ELSPETH CANT    23/09/1833   

CATHARINE THOMSON   Parents - JOHN THOMSON/CATHARINE KERR  04/11/1835   

The last on appears to be the family I followed until the mother died in 1885

I would love to pin down birth and parents for Catherine Thomson around 1837. I think I have been looking at it for so long I've go myself muddled   ???

Thanks again
Laura
Greenock-Williamson,Guthrie,McIlhagga,Morris,McPherson
Lanarkshire-Reid,Bennett/Bennard,Stewart, Miller,Brown,Jamieson,McGregor,Davidson, Paterson,Anderson,Allister,Renwick,Shearer.
Stirling-Guthrie,Coutts.
Montrose-Guthrie,Brown,
Arbroath-Smith,Adam,Garland,Esplin,Davdison, Fender,Moncur
AyrshireRankin,McDickens,Bennard/Bennett,Carrick,Russell.
Ireland-Williamson,Galbraith,McIlhagga,Adrain. Bennard.
Fife-Brown,Williamson
Whitburn-Brown,Smart,Martin
Staffordshire-Abbiss,Oakley,Morris,Southall

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Re: Catherine Thomson c1837
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 15 October 17 05:11 BST (UK) »
Have you found her in 1841 in Ceres, Fife?

www.freecen.org have the whole of Scotland transcribed for 1841 (the only year) but worth checking for ANY possibles in Fife.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"


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Re: Catherine Thomson c1837
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 15 October 17 05:14 BST (UK) »
Not sure where you're based but this is good for checking areas;

www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/FIF/parishes

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Catherine Thomson c1837
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 15 October 17 05:16 BST (UK) »
It may also be worth while looking for her under the surname Walker too as she may have been illegitimate?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Catherine Thomson c1837
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 15 October 17 05:48 BST (UK) »
HI
I thought I had tracked them down to High Street, Scoonie, Fife in 1841.
John Thomson 1816, Catherine Thomson 1816, Catherine Thomson 1836, John Thomson 1838 and Peter Thomson 1839. This is the family I followed until the death cert in 1885 that gave me the names Mitchell, Kerr and maiden name Grant as Catherine Seniors previous names instead of WALKER as I had expected. I cant seem to find another family that fits - so I'm a little confused as where to go next.

I had tried Walker incase she was illegitimate but came up with nothing  ???
I must have missed something somewhere, just cant see it

Thanks again
Laura
Greenock-Williamson,Guthrie,McIlhagga,Morris,McPherson
Lanarkshire-Reid,Bennett/Bennard,Stewart, Miller,Brown,Jamieson,McGregor,Davidson, Paterson,Anderson,Allister,Renwick,Shearer.
Stirling-Guthrie,Coutts.
Montrose-Guthrie,Brown,
Arbroath-Smith,Adam,Garland,Esplin,Davdison, Fender,Moncur
AyrshireRankin,McDickens,Bennard/Bennett,Carrick,Russell.
Ireland-Williamson,Galbraith,McIlhagga,Adrain. Bennard.
Fife-Brown,Williamson
Whitburn-Brown,Smart,Martin
Staffordshire-Abbiss,Oakley,Morris,Southall

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Re: Catherine Thomson c1837
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 15 October 17 16:57 BST (UK) »
"Catherine Thomson married George Allister on the 25.10.1860 at Dunfermline.
Catherine gives her parents as : John Thomson (Labourer) and Christina Thomson maiden name Walker"


Is there mention of either parent being deceased on Catherine's marriage?
If not then checking for them in 1861 might be worthwhile?
What age was Catherine on her marriage?

"I have them on the 1861 Census where she gives her Birth year as 1837 and the place as Ceres, Fife.
In 1871, 1881 and 1891 the family are in Carstairs, Lanarkshire"


Does each census give Ceres as PoB?

Not all children were baptised, not all were recorded & not all records have survived.

Annie

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Catherine Thomson c1837
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 15 October 17 17:28 BST (UK) »
There is this on the 1851 census.

Cupar

Christian Thompson widow 60 b Ceres
Barbara 28 b Kemback
David21 b Kemback
Catherine 16 b Ceres Flax mill worker

Also note that there is a baptism for a Helen Thomson(parents John Thomson and Christian Walker) in Kemback 1 Sept 1816

Marriage of a John Thomson and Christian Walker in  Kemback 30 Jan 1812.

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