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 I'm looking to locate where my Great Grandfather x3 is buried. His name is Samuel Chapman. He was born in Loudoun Scotland in 1781.  He married in 1806 at Loudoun Parish to a Helen Findly/Finley, born 1785 in Galston. He was a farmer and assumed lived in or around Loudoun till his death around 75 years of age. 1856?  I guess I'm trying to find what cemeteries are in the area that might have records that I can search.  His son Samuel W Chapman was born in Darvel 1816 and came to america in 1841.  Thanks for any help out there!  Allison

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Re: Samuel Chapman born 1781 Loudoun, searching for information & gravesite location
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 October 17 00:40 BST (UK) »
He does not appear on either the 1841 or 1851 Scottish censuses.  Are you sure about his birthyear/age at death?
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Re: Samuel Chapman born 1781 Loudoun, searching for information & gravesite location
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 October 17 01:34 BST (UK) »
In my information and it says Samuel Chapman was born 1781 Loudoun, Scotland. I don't have an exact date of death but it mentions that he died at around 75 years of age.  Samuel & his wife Helen were both from small farming towns a couple of miles away, Loudoun and Galston.  I have more information on his son Samuel William Chapman who is buried here in the US. He was born in Darvel, Scotland 1816. I'm still looking through papers to see if I can locate more information. I found Samuel & Helen's Marriage certificate on Scotlandspeople.com I havent viewed it yet but it may have more information.  Thanks for your help!

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Re: Samuel Chapman born 1781 Loudoun, searching for information & gravesite location
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 October 17 10:29 BST (UK) »
Helen does not appear on the 1841 or 1851 either and there are no Chapman deaths in Loudoun pre 1855 on Scotlands People.

Any possibility that the parents went to the US in 1841 with son Samuel?
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Re: Samuel Chapman born 1781 Loudoun, searching for information & gravesite location
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 October 17 11:59 BST (UK) »
Papers say his son was native of glasglow and came to America with his family in 1841. His Father also a native of Scotland and there died at about 75 years of age. Its possible he may not have been in Loudoun when he passed but a different area around there?  Buried in The family plot here is his son & wife along with his child (son) and wife. I'll keep searching!

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Re: Samuel Chapman born 1781 Loudoun, searching for information & gravesite location
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 October 17 12:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Allison,

Did Samuel Jnr marry Margaret Spittal?
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 October 17 12:50 BST (UK) »
If so they didnt marry until 3 April 1842, Cadder, Lanarkshire.

They are both there in 1841 Census age 20/21
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Samuel Chapman born 1781 Loudoun, searching for information & gravesite location
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 October 17 12:53 BST (UK) »
Death Reg on Familysearch.Org;
Samuel W. Chapman
13 Jul 1936, Elgin, Kane, Illinois
Age   92

Parents are down as both born Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Samuel Chapman born 1781 Loudoun, searching for information & gravesite location
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 17 October 17 13:03 BST (UK) »
1851 Census
3 Burn Road,
Barony, Lanarkshire
Samuel Chapman, 66, Porter, born Ireland***
Joseph Chapman, 30, Son, Labourer, born Darvel, Ayrshire**
Helen Chapman, 33, Daug, Weaver, born Darvel, Ayrshire***
Samuel Chapman, 5, Grandson (Mother Helen), born Glasgow, Lanark
James Fulton, 23, Visitor, Shopman/Grocer, born East Kilbride, Lanark
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)