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Birth Registers at GRO....what am I doing wrong ?
« on: Monday 16 October 17 18:42 BST (UK) »
Hi there
I only read recently that the maiden name of the mother was disclosed in the GRO birth register listings and have been using that function to double check on a few ancestors.

But I have found 2 entries listed on BMD (and checked their scans) but these entries  I can't find at all at GRO. I put in a query to them about both and received the reply :

"Investigated – No amendment required  - Indexed data is correct"

Can anyone else see these entries ?

Report Type:    Missing entry in the birth index         Date Submitted:    06 Oct 2017 12:24
Name:    emma paxman         Mother's Maiden Surname:    
Details:   freebmd shows an entry but not to be found here
Current Status:    Investigated – No amendment required         GRO Index Reference:    1844 M stepney 2 546   
GRO Comments:   Indexed data is correct.

Report Type:    Missing entry in the birth index         Date Submitted:    05 Oct 2017 17:35
Name:    margaret simpson         Mother's Maiden Surname:    
Details:   have seen an entry(ie a scan of the entry) at the FreeBMD site but it is not showing here,
Current Status:    Investigated – No amendment required         GRO Index Reference:    1863 S pancras 1b 153   
GRO Comments:   Indexed data is correct.

      
   

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Re: Birth Registers at GRO....what am I doing wrong ?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 October 17 19:07 BST (UK) »
I can't see them either!


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Re: Birth Registers at GRO....what am I doing wrong ?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 16 October 17 19:08 BST (UK) »
Can you send them a scan of the entries?

I too failed to find Emma!
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Birth Registers at GRO....what am I doing wrong ?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 16 October 17 19:10 BST (UK) »
nor me and I looked at the original scans on Freebmd and they are definitely there!!
Pender, Raphael,Lambert,Digby,Stent,
Dowell,cornish,mulley,Death,Rosier,
East End,Suffolk,Essex,Cornwall,Devon,London,  middlesex, hertfordshire                                      Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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Re: Birth Registers at GRO....what am I doing wrong ?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 16 October 17 19:13 BST (UK) »
There appears to be no facility to do this, send a scan I mean..

But how can BMD have a reference and GRO not ?
What would happen if I wanted to order a certificate ? (Which I don't really, it's a bit offtrack..)

(It just makes me wonder about the accuracy within the official sites....After 40 years of hunting, I still for example haven't found the birth registration for both my g-grandmothers)

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Re: Birth Registers at GRO....what am I doing wrong ?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 October 17 19:17 BST (UK) »
Oh posts overlapped!
thankyou for looking... I was wondering if my access was blocked or something.
I am not in the Uk.

But 2 entries at BMD that are not confirmed at GRO...and in just 24 hours! That't a pretty high ratio!

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Re: Birth Registers at GRO....what am I doing wrong ?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 16 October 17 19:30 BST (UK) »
I suspect that the two births in question were illegitimate and that for the original index that FreeBMD are working from the children were double-indexed under both the father's and mother's surnames.

If you run the search on freebmd again you can see that there are two other Emmas on the page - Emma Saint and Emma Jane Walker.

SAINT, EMMA      -    Order 
GRO Reference: 1844  M Quarter in STEPNEY  Volume 02  Page 546 
WALKER, EMMA  JANE       TARRENT    Order 
GRO Reference: 1844  M Quarter in STEPNEY  Volume 02  Page 546 


Also for 1863 - Margaret Page and Margaret Mercer

PAGE, MARGARET      -    Order 
GRO Reference: 1863  S Quarter in ST PANCRAS  Volume 01B  Page 153 
MERCER, MARGARET  ANN       WATTS    Order 
GRO Reference: 1863  S Quarter in ST PANCRAS  Volume 01B  Page 153

This is where being able to view the whole page of a register would come in useful, but Emma Saint and Margaret Page are likely the correct entries.

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Re: Birth Registers at GRO....what am I doing wrong ?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 October 17 19:31 BST (UK) »
I've had the same, notified a total of 6 so far where I've looked at the FreeBMD scan.  A mixture of transcription errors and missing entries.  Just one of the six has been updated, they reckon the others are correct.

Think they need to go to Spec*
ALLEN
BARR, BARRATT, BERRY, BRADLEY,BRAMLEY,BRISTOW,BROWN,BUGBIRD,BUTLER
CAIN,CARR,CHAPMAN,CHARLES,CH*LTON,CHESTER,COCKETT
COLLASON,COLLYER,CORKERY
DARLING, DENYER,DICKERSON,DOLLING,DURBAN
FARMER,FURNELL
GIBSON,GILES,GROOMBRIDGE
HALL,HAMBIDGE,HARMES,HART,HICKS,HILL,HOLLOWAY
JACKSON
K*AT*S
LANCASTER,LINTON
MCDONALD,MCFADEN,MEARS,MILLARD
NICOLAS,NOAK,NORTH
PARFIT,PORTER
RIPPINGALE,ROBINS
SEARLE,SPENCER,STEDHAM
TYLER,TILLY,TUCKWELL
WADE,WAGER,WALKER,WATSON,WEBB,WITHRINGTON,WOOD

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Re: Birth Registers at GRO....what am I doing wrong ?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 October 17 19:31 BST (UK) »
That's funny (in an amusing way).

Someone has gone to the trouble of checking, and has reponded with the volume details etc which you already knew from BMD, and which you can't use for searching.

What you really would like to know is what is this "correct" name that the person has been indexed under.