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Altrincham Directory (Worrall's) c.1871/1872
HOOD Mr. George, Peel Crescent, off Ashley Road, Hale. Also at this address ...
ORMSHAW Mrs. Mary, Peel Cescent, off Ashley Road, Hale.


The reason for my question is, the two same characters appeared to live next door to each other at Peel Causeway, Hale, in the 1871 Census and shortly after seem to have both moved to Peel Crescent and I have been stuck with my Hood of Selby (2 generations back from the above George Hood) lineage, for about 20 years.


1871 Census, Peel Causeway, Hale (Microfim copy in Cheshire Archives).
George HOOD, Head, Marr, 24 [born 1847], Commercial Traveller in the Leather Trade, born Selby, Yorkshire.
Charlotte HOOD, Wife, 23, Marr, born Manchester [nee Middleton, I have her 1871 Death Certificate]
Emma BOARDMAN, Serv. Unm, 21, General Serv. (Domestic), born Salford, Lancashire.

Mary ORMESHER, Head, W, 57 yrs, Annuitant, born Bowdon, Cheshire.
Sarah A. ORMESHER, Daur, Unm, 28 yrs, Annuitant, born -ditto- [can't get this *birthplace to tally on GRO *]
Charles WALKER, Grandson, 5, Blackley, Lancs.
John S. MARRIOT, Lodger.

Can't find ORMESHERs in earlier Census on Family Search, despite having Mother & Daughter.


Various, researched
Mary ORMESHER appears to be buried Bowdon 1887 aged 73 yrs, Registered Altrincham (GRO Index), which fits with an estimated Birth of about 1814 at Bowdon, Cheshire and a ...

Marriage Mary HALL to Henry ORMESHER 12th November 1835, Bowdon, Cheshire (not seen).


*Sarah Ann ORMESHER Birth 1842 District Manchester, nee HALL (GRO Index)
This seems to fit with ...
Sarah Ann ORMERSHER baptised 7 June 1842, Manchester, Lancashire, Parents Henry & Mary ORMERSHER (Birth 15 May 1842, St. John, Deansgate, Manchester, Lancs).


*Incidentally, there is a second listing for a Sarah Ann ORMESHER in 1838 District Chorlton, on GRO Index, again with nee HALL.
Possibly Sarah Ann ORMESHER, baptism 10 June 1838, Heaton Norris, Lancashire, Parents Henry and Mary ORMESHER.


Questions
1) Any ORMSHAW / ORMESHER / ORMERSHER / HALL etc., relationship / Marriage to HOOD?
2) Any HOOD witnesses on any documents please?

Other surnames of interest from a known HOOD ancestor childrens middle names (all surnames) are COOK; PEARSON; ELLEN and ALFRED. Also COOKIN (COCKIN and aliases).

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Re: Mrs Mary ORMSHAW, Peel Crescent, Hale, Cheshire 1871-1872 - Any HOOD link please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 October 17 22:00 BST (UK) »
Sarah A. Ormesher is born Blackley on the 1881 census (not Bowdon) and Charles is born Moston.

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Re: Mrs Mary ORMSHAW, Peel Crescent, Hale, Cheshire 1871-1872 - Any HOOD link please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 October 17 22:08 BST (UK) »
1851 census as Ancestry transcribes:

Nancy Hall   82  Bowdon  widowed  head
Mary Ninershee   37  dau Bowdon  widowed
Helen Ninershee   11  dau  Levenshulme
Sarah Ann Ninershee   8  Blakeley
Sarah Williamson   41 visitor  Marylebone

Class: HO107; Piece: 2162; Folio: 333; Page: 7;

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Re: Mrs Mary ORMSHAW, Peel Crescent, Hale, Cheshire 1871-1872 - Any HOOD link please
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 October 17 22:21 BST (UK) »
Nancy Hall in Bowdon in 1841

Nancy Hall   72  local  independent
Mary Leicester   5 not local
Harriett Leicester   3  not local

Class: HO107   Piece: 91   Book: 17  Folio: 8  Page: 9;


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Re: Mrs Mary ORMSHAW, Peel Crescent, Hale, Cheshire 1871-1872 - Any HOOD link please
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 October 17 22:26 BST (UK) »
This could be Helen's birth from GRO

Ellen Ormesher  mmn Hall
March quarter 1840 in Chorlton   vol 20 page 12

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Re: Mrs Mary ORMSHAW, Peel Crescent, Hale, Cheshire 1871-1872 - Any HOOD link please
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 October 17 22:41 BST (UK) »
Sarah A. Ormesher is born Blackley on the 1881 census (not Bowdon) and Charles is born Moston.

Thank you for ironing out the error in the 1871 Census ...

Sarah A. ORMESHER, Daur, Unm, 28 yrs, Annuitant, born [Blackley, Lancs per 1881, Blackley is Manchester]

Sarah Ann ORMESHER Birth 1842 District Manchester, nee HALL (GRO Index)
This seems to fit with ... 
Sarah Ann ORMERSHER baptised 7 June 1842, Manchester, Lancashire, Parents Henry & Mary ORMERSHER (Birth 15 May 1842, St. John, Deansgate, Manchester, Lancs).


Looking to see if any relationship link Ormshaw / Ormesher / Hall to Hood (and other surnames in question)?

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Re: Mrs Mary ORMSHAW, Peel Crescent, Hale, Cheshire 1871-1872 - Any HOOD link please
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 October 17 23:18 BST (UK) »
Probable birth for Charles Walker, as showing in your 1871 census extract

Charles Walker mmn Omersher
March quarter 1866 Manchester   08D   348

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Re: Mrs Mary ORMSHAW, Peel Crescent, Hale, Cheshire 1871-1872 - Any HOOD link please
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 October 17 23:30 BST (UK) »
This could be Helen's birth from GRO

Ellen Ormesher  mmn Hall
March quarter 1840 in Chorlton   vol 20 page 12

Volume 20 (XX) page 212 on image

Thank you.

This looks to be the nearest 1861 Census on Family Search, although Mary's age possibly transcribed wrong?

Bowdon, Cheshire, page 30, RG 9  2590/107
Mary Ormeshire, Head, 67[?] born Bowdon, Cheshire.
Ellen Ormeshire, Dau, 21, born Lancashire.
Sarah Ormeshire, Dau, 18, born Lancashire.
Henry Woof, 19

Mary Ormeshire, Head, 47? (57yrs in 1871 Census)

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Re: Mrs Mary ORMSHAW, Peel Crescent, Hale, Cheshire 1871-1872 - Any HOOD link please
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 18 October 17 06:57 BST (UK) »
Ancestry has it transcribed as:
1861 in Bowdon
Mary Comeshire   67 (47 on image) Bowdon proprietor of houses 
Elan Comeshire   21  Blakesley, Lancashire
James Ann (Sarah Ann) Comeshire   18  Blakesley, Lancashire
Thomas George Woof   19  Hulme Lancashire

Added:
Think it is Thomas Green Woof
and this birth:
Thomas Green Woof mmn Green  June quarter 1842 in Chorlton