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WW2 Italy Star
« on: Wednesday 18 October 17 22:27 BST (UK) »
I've just received a service record which shows the Italy Star among the medals awarded but can only find references to going to Gibraltar then BNAF (British North Africa Force). So far I have been unable to find (decipher) any reference to Italy. Why was he awarded the Italy Star?

My first set of Army records and they are challenging!

Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
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Re: WW2 Italy Star
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 18 October 17 22:32 BST (UK) »
Was he Army, Navy or Air Force?

There's a list of eligibility criteria on this page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_Star

Basically, it says (of service ashore):
Qualifying service on land by Army personnel, Naval shore-based personnel and Air Force non-air crew was entry into operational service as part of the establishment in the following areas, all dates inclusive:

    Aegean from 11 June 1943 to 8 May 1945.
    Corsica from 11 June to 4 October 1943.
    Dodecanese from 11 June 1943 to 8 May 1945.
    Greece from 11 June 1943 to 8 May 1945.
    Italy, including Elba, from 11 June 1943 to 8 May 1945.
    Pantellaria on 11 June 1943.
    Sardinia from 11 June to 19 September 1943.
    Sicily from 11 June to 17 August 1943.
    Yugoslavia from 11 June 1943 to 8 May 1945.
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: WW2 Italy Star
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 October 17 22:54 BST (UK) »
He was Army.

I did check for eligibility but could find none of those areas; I can see Gibraltar, then BNAF and that is it.
All those military abbreviations and different handwriting are taking time to work out! Will look again with fresh eyes in the morning.

Thanks for your help KG.
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: WW2 Italy Star
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 October 17 10:22 BST (UK) »
Just to add that, confusingly, although CMF (Central Mediterranean Force) was the correct title for the Italy/Balkans theatre of war from July 1943, the previous designation BNAF is often seen in service records long after the man/unit has moved from North Africa to Sicily/Italy.

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Re: WW2 Italy Star
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 19 October 17 10:24 BST (UK) »
Thanks MaxD........still looking for his move in the record!
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: WW2 Italy Star
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 19 October 17 10:32 BST (UK) »
If his unit is easily identifiable then it should be possible to track where it was and when even without the detail of  the war diary.

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Re: WW2 Italy Star
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 19 October 17 10:36 BST (UK) »
At first glance he seems to switch between Royal Fusiliers and Royal Artillery;  it is not the clearest set of handwriting I've seen. Will try to transcribe.
Thanks for the advice.
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: WW2 Italy Star
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 19 October 17 10:40 BST (UK) »
OK - raining today, need something to do!

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Re: WW2 Italy Star
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 19 October 17 10:44 BST (UK) »
My FIL was in Italy after being in Africa, ended up clearing Bari harbour of mines (he was in REs). Perhaps so many moved on to Italy difficult for admin at the time to keep up.
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