Latin inscription - COMPLETED

[grantleydawn]

Can someone please help me with this inscription, from a brass in the church of the Holy Trinity, Rothwell, Northamptonshire.
Regards Grantley

hic iacet Edwardus Saundius quondam de harryngton
.... .... et Johanna uxor eius .... .... Edwardus ob .... ....
die Junij .... din m y .... .... .... .... deus Amen

apparently the death date is supposed to be 19th June 1514

[Richard Knott]

It starts 'Hic iacet E S quondam de H...' ie 'Here lies E S formerly of H...' but, given that it takes me a long time to decipher the less obvious words, I would wait for Bookbox who will do it straightaway.

R

[grantleydawn]

Thanks R. One step at a time is good.

[Richard Knott]

The last part is also fairly standard.
I would expect something like 'Quorum animabus propitietur Deus' (God forgiving the souls) but it clearly isn't 'animabus'. Perhaps it is standard to write it a'i'bus, missing out a couple of letters.
'ob..' is 'obiit' (ie died)

Richard

[Bookbox]

Hic iacet Edwardus Saunders quondam de haryngton p(ri)mus fu(n)dator
istius Cantarie et Johanna uxor eius qui quidem Edwardus obiit XIX
die Junij A(nno) d(omi)ni M D XIIII quorum a(n)i(m)abus propicietur deus Amen

Here lies Edward Saunders formerly of Haryngton, the first founder
of this chantry, and Joan his wife; this Edward died indeed on the 19th
day of June in the year of the Lord 1514; may God have forgiveness on their souls Amen

(ADDED -- largely agreeing with Richard.)

[horselydown86]

Hello Grantley,

Are you researching the SAUNDERS family of Harrington?  I am descended from Isabell SAUNDERS, the wife of Walter CURSON of Waterperry, who is mentioned in this Edward's PCC will.

She is alleged to be the daughter of one Robert SAUNDERS of Harrington, who is a bit of a mystery.  The family are well documented from this Edward's generation onwards, but  poorly before.

(Some sources have Isabell as this Edward's daughter.  I am sceptical of that claim.  She may be his sister or cousin.)

If you are, I would be interested to discuss the family with you.

Cheers,

horselydown86

[grantleydawn]

Fantastic. Thank you Richard and Bookbox. Something that was way out of my reach.
That letter X is something that I have never seen before.
 

PS; His will dated 19th July 1514 and his brass stating death 19 June 1514 will just have to be one of those variances. Thanks again.

[grantleydawn]

Hi horselydown86,

I would love to compare notes. I am following a line descending from Walter CURSON’s son, Thomas.

I have accumulated various documents and am now putting them all together.

It appears that it was a weak assumption in 1944, that led to Isabell SAUNDERS being placed as the daughter of Edward and the claim that John Burke was wrong in 1838.

A more plausible case would be that Isabell was the niece of Edward.

Either way, the families are intertwined. I have sent you a PM with my email address.

Regards
Grantley