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James Martin Hillhouse Taylor Born Poole
« on: Saturday 21 October 17 22:12 BST (UK) »
James emigrated to Australia in 1841. On the ships log he is named as James Taylor.
He sailed on the Victoria in Oct 1841 (this ship was for the private use of the Hillhouse/Hilhouse company)
He states his mother as Jane.
We think his grandfather was James Martin Hillhouse/Hilhouse as
In James Martin Hillhouse/Hilhouse will approx 1822/23  it states bequests to the 3 lawful sons of my deceased son Robert
Robert. James,  and George Poole
Robert senior died in 1821
There is a burial in Clifton Gloucester of a Jane Pool in 1819
Could this be James mother?
What happened to James, George and Robert afterwards
We’re they put with relatives?
Name of Taylor? Is that why he calls himself Taylor?
Did he use his grandfathers name when he arrived in Australia.
Would there be any school registers around 1825 naming these boys?
Any ideas please
Many thanks

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Re: James Martin Hillhouse Taylor Born Poole
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 22 October 17 05:20 BST (UK) »
Not solving your questions but.....Unless there's another part of the lengthy will I didn't spot, it doesn't refer to the 3 POOLE sons of the late Robert HILHOUSE as 'lawful' - rather, it clearly refers to their illegitimacy:

"...And shall pay and apply a sum not exceeding the yearly sum of one hundred pounds to and for the maintenance, education and advancement of Robert Pool, George Pool and James Pool, three natural children of my late son Robert deceased..."

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Re: James Martin Hillhouse Taylor Born Poole
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 22 October 17 09:17 BST (UK) »
Yes I meant natural sons
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Re: James Martin Hillhouse Taylor Born Poole
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 22 October 17 09:49 BST (UK) »
James TAYLOR sailed on the Victoria in October 1841 - from where?  -  could possibly be on the 1841 census, taken 6 June 1841)  ? what occupation was he in Australia + what names did he give his children i.e. family names.

From other information on the 'net' - it states James was born c1814.


Looking at the Gloucestershire Baptism Index CD after 1813 - the surname TAYLOR was sometimes spelt TAYLER  - 81 in total

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Baptism at Wareham Dorset - 29 December 1816

James TAYLER, parents: Edward & Jane


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Re: James Martin Hillhouse Taylor Born Poole
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 22 October 17 10:23 BST (UK) »
I have found 2 James Taylor in the 1841 census in Bristol
About the right age
1 a surveyor and 1 a merchant
He sailed in the October 1841 from Bristol
His children were called Taylor a Jane and a Robert
He called himself James Martin Hillhouse Taylor.
He was lined up for a job as an agent in a shipping company in Morpeth.
I cannot find any baptisms that state mother only (Jane) though
Thank you
I would love to know if the Jane Pool who died in Clifton had an age.

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Re: James Martin Hillhouse Taylor Born Poole
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 22 October 17 12:26 BST (UK) »
Looking at the Bristol Records Office Wills, they do hold the Will of : Mary HILHOUSE - 1827 (Mary his wife, is mentioned in James' Will)

A2a: The National Archives - hold other info on Hilhouse

Including:

Will of George HILHOUSE of Clifton, Bristol - dated 8 May 1848, which can be downloaded for £3.50 or is on Ancestry - mentioned his brother Abraham

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George HILHOUSE, birth c 1788 - Death 24 December 1849, Clifton, Bristol

Residence: 1841, Westbury Upon Trym, Gloucestershire  - aged 62, not born in County and a Merchant


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Bristol Records Office Wills

POOL

Robert POOL - 1850
Thomas POOL - 1825
Benjamin POOLE - 1854
John POOLE - 1829
Robert POOLE - 1855
William POOLE - 1826

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children of Jas Martin HILHOUSE & Mary BUSH (also on Ancestry)

Martin Hilhouse - 8 October 1783, Clifton
Sarah - 27 March 1795
Marian - 24 August 1780
Geo. - 6 April 1778
Elionor  - 27 March 1795 - Family tree on Ancestry  **
Abraham - 25 June 1788
Caroline - 1781
Rbt - 25 June 1788

**Eleanor HilHOUSE married : Henry BUSH : 16 September 1824, Clifton, Bristol

Mother : Mary BUSH - died 1827, Combe House, Clifton, (so Will at the Bristol Records Office)


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Re: James Martin Hillhouse Taylor Born Poole
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 22 October 17 12:58 BST (UK) »
In Mary’s Will she bequeaths £10 each to her other grand children but they are not named unfortunately. 2 grand children are mentioned but not any of the Pool children.
There is nothing about them in George’s will either.
This is really a mystery.
The only way to find anything out I feel is to have more information on the Jane Pools death in 1819
And any school records.
Thanks everyone for your input

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Re: James Martin Hillhouse Taylor Born Poole
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 22 October 17 13:49 BST (UK) »
Do you have James 1875 Australian Death Cert?
TAYLOR  James Martin Hilhouse Reg 7685/1875, Mothers given name Jane, district Morpeth

Does it contain any extra info?
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Re: James Martin Hillhouse Taylor Born Poole
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 22 October 17 14:23 BST (UK) »
There is no extra info on it I’m afraid