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Kimpton/Womack marriage, circa 1910-1915?
« on: Sunday 22 October 17 14:29 BST (UK) »
I was interested in this article about the Hoste Arms
in Burnham Market, since a relation (John Wharton Womack)
used to run it. The "Grandma Womack"
of the article is John's Wife.

http://www.edp24.co.uk/features/visitors-of-yesteryear-to-burnham-market-s-hoste-arms-1-5241146

Being nosy, I decided to check out
Peter Kimpton's relationship to me.

Since Peter is 76, we know his DOB is about 1941.
His mother died in 1995, and was called Kathleen.

Turning to freeBMD, a simple name+date search gives

Sep 1941
KIMPTON    Peter H L    Oxley    Cirencester    6a   1064

Adding the MMN, taking off the forename, and widening the date
adds a brother
Births Mar 1946
Kimpton    Paul S    Oxley    Thanet    2a   2605

Changing from Birth to Marriage gives:
Marriages Jun 1940
Kimpton    Harold G    Oxley    Thanet    2a   4602
Oxley    Kathleen H    Kimpton    Thanet    2a   4602

The Kathleen shows I'm very likely on the right track.
A tree on Ancestry shows Kathleens mother to be a "Briden"
not a Womack, so it looks like the Womack connection
should be Harold G Kimpton's Mother.

But here's where it goes wrong. FreeBMD has no Kimpton/Womack marriage.
Back checking, FreeBMD shows

Births Dec 1914
Kimpton    Harold G    Womack    B. Stortford    3a   1401

So this IS the connection.

An online tree of the Womack family gives:
https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:John_Womack_%2838%29

    Ellen Eugenie Womack 1878 -
    Ethel Mary Womack 1879 - 1963
    Olive Ada Womack 1880 -
    Marian Eveline Womack 1881 -
    Royal John Womack 1883 - 1966
    Eva Alice Womack 1884 - 1884
    Emily Alice Womack 1885 -
    Grace Myra Womack 1888 - 1888
    Harold Hugh Womack 1890 - 1962
    Latimer Womack 1892 - 1892

I believe I have found by elimination that Harold G Kimpton's mother
was Marian Eveline Womack, but I cannot find positive proof.

Can anyone do better?

   BugBear
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WOMACK Norfolk/Suffolk

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Re: Kimpton/Womack marriage, circa 1910-1915?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 22 October 17 15:39 BST (UK) »
Are you thinking he was illegitimate then with unmarried Marion being his mother?

If so where did he get the name Kimpton?

There is a Marion E Womack marriage in Docking Dec 1916 to Arthur F Goff if you think that could be her but would obviously need the birth to confirm she was his mother.   
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Kimpton/Womack marriage, circa 1910-1915?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 22 October 17 15:51 BST (UK) »
Are you thinking he was illegitimate then with unmarried Marion being his mother?

If so where did he get the name Kimpton?

There is a Marion E Womack marriage in Docking Dec 1916 to Arthur F Goff if you think that could be her but would obviously need the birth to confirm she was his mother.   

I was thinking the 1914 birth was legitimate, and that possibly the marriage is mis-indexed.

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Re: Kimpton/Womack marriage, circa 1910-1915?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 22 October 17 15:51 BST (UK) »
Marion E Goff is born 1881 - death 1966 North Walsham Norfolk
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Kimpton/Womack marriage, circa 1910-1915?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 22 October 17 16:47 BST (UK) »
Marion E Goff is born 1881 - death 1966 North Walsham Norfolk
That certainly sounds like "our" Miss Womack. Perhaps Harold G Kimpton was born out of wedlock.

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Re: Kimpton/Womack marriage, circa 1910-1915?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 22 October 17 17:09 BST (UK) »
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I believe I have found by elimination that Harold G Kimpton's mother
was Marian Eveline Womack, but I cannot find positive proof.

In the Newspaper article Peter says that his Grandmother was Emily

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Re: Kimpton/Womack marriage, circa 1910-1915?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 22 October 17 17:38 BST (UK) »
There is a marriage

Marriages Jun 1943   
Butters    Maurice G    Kimpton    Norwich    4b   387   
Kimpton    Emily A    Butters    Norwich    4b   387    

Some Womack family mentioned in article are on the 1939 with Emily a widow.

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Kimpton/Womack marriage, circa 1910-1915?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 22 October 17 17:52 BST (UK) »
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I believe I have found by elimination that Harold G Kimpton's mother
was Marian Eveline Womack, but I cannot find positive proof.

In the Newspaper article Peter says that his Grandmother was Emily
He did. Which I ignored.  :-[

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