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Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 13:11 BST (UK) »
Definition:

Step sister
a daughter of one's step-parent by a marriage other than with one's own father or mother.

Half sister

a sister with whom one has only one parent in common.

So it depends which it is here. Either way they are not removed.
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Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 16:20 BST (UK) »
And by extension, if A and B had children (G, H,), then A re-married to C, who had had children with D ( M, N, ), then that next generation would be stepchildren to each other..
BUT if B had previously had a child with X, call it T, then surely that child would not really be a relative
of C & D's children, would it?
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Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 20:01 BST (UK) »
And by extension, if A and B had children (G, H,), then A re-married to C, who had had children with D ( M, N, ), then that next generation would be stepchildren to each other..
BUT if B had previously had a child with X, call it T, then surely that child would not really be a relative
of C & D's children, would it?
If A and B have children G,H
and C and D had children M,N
and A remarried C and had further children P,Q

X=====B=====A=====C=====D
   |     |     |     |
   T    G,H   P,Q   M,N


then GH and MN are all half-brothers/half-sisters to PQ, having 1 common parent not 2.
but GH are step-brothers/step-sisters to MN.  They have no common parent at all.  Not blood relations.
T would be G and H's half-sibling, but again no relation to M and N.  I suppose T would be a step-step-sibling or something.
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Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 26 October 17 13:49 BST (UK) »
Your diagram illustrates it far better than my wordy account. Thank you, JohninSussex.
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Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 26 October 17 14:56 BST (UK) »
And by extension, if A and B had children (G, H,), then A re-married to C, who had had children with D ( M, N, ), then that next generation would be stepchildren to each other..
BUT if B had previously had a child with X, call it T, then surely that child would not really be a relative
of C & D's children, would it?
If A and B have children G,H
and C and D had children M,N
and A remarried C and had further children P,Q

X=====B=====A=====C=====D
   |     |     |     |
   T    G,H   P,Q   M,N


then GH and MN are all half-brothers/half-sisters to PQ, having 1 common parent not 2.
but GH are step-brothers/step-sisters to MN.  They have no common parent at all.  Not blood relations.
T would be G and H's half-sibling, but again no relation to M and N.  I suppose T would be a step-step-sibling or something.
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Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 20 November 17 23:07 GMT (UK) »
my next sister closest to me in age is upset that her father had another family, she was his firstborn so I think she thought she was special to him, I suppose she thinks of it as a betrayal but as he is dead she'll never know what, why, nor how he could do this to her, his daughter.he was married 3 times inc my mum said to her that they are her half sidters, she repliied that's wrong,
I said that I am your half sister because we share the same mther, l & E are your half sister's because you share the same father that's when she came back and said
I thinks it's better if you do not contact me again,
I asked her why be like hat, who was it who was always there for you when you needed somone or something, who was it who came up to g when you were running way from D with your baby , ME,
I asked her did she think, that my husband would have helped her move up there if I had not pushed him into doing so, or went to h to her ex hubby home because he'd got so deunk he missed his coach home or came up to fetch her home away from hrer ex david ?(sarah dont blow your top he died when his restaurant flooded he had a heatr atrack and dropped down dead by this time he had divorced my sister and married someone t nickname mother earth.
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Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
« Reply #15 on: Monday 20 November 17 23:30 GMT (UK) »
I know that, just beeing siily, its just that they halfsisters to my half sistersits judst as well i dont thnk he had any chidren wiyh his third wife
Scotlandorkney flett bell, strickland laird traillcalqahoun.
Lanark/Argyll/Renfrew/Ayr:Smith, Steele,Kirkwood,Hamilton,May,orO'mayscott and anderso, craig , forbes taggart Kirkwood, milloy and steel apart ftom others which are numerous, graham mcilroy. stewart.brown battonisle of sku rothsay etc.
 searl rogers sutherland
Edinburgh/Aberdeen:portsea marsh,brownwhittcomb and others. to numerous to mentionweymouth frank.  Laidlaw,Brown,Dean//Charles/Hall/Slight/Johnston belgium loquet

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Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 21 November 17 12:40 GMT (UK) »
My late husband was married twice.  He had two children with his first wife, and one child with me, his second wife.  I had no children with my first husband.

My daughter and his children from his first marriage are half-siblings.
I am step-mother to the children of his first marriage.
Had I had a child from my first marriage, that child and my daughter would be half-siblings, and my husband's elder children would be step-siblings to that child and not actually blood relatives.
Suffolk: Pearl(e),  Garnham, Southgate, Blo(o)mfield,Grimwood/Grimwade,Josselyn/Gosling
Durham/Yorkshire: Sedgwick/Sidgwick, Shadforth
Ireland: Davis
Norway: Torreson/Torsen/Torrison
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Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 03:26 GMT (UK) »
yesI share in common with my half sisters'my mother, douglas whose dead sarah was my stepfather, but father to my three halfsisters, then he divorced my mother and married vf and had another two daughters, these chidren are both parents children(in other words they are not the products of her having a previous relationship, so they are my half sisters' half sisters, and no relation to me. this I know but it was fun testing it out. its a shame that t does not see that it could be good if she would just embrace it and make friends with them l & e as they all have the same surname although my three sisters are no all marriedand are about 10 years older than their half sisters'
Scotlandorkney flett bell, strickland laird traillcalqahoun.
Lanark/Argyll/Renfrew/Ayr:Smith, Steele,Kirkwood,Hamilton,May,orO'mayscott and anderso, craig , forbes taggart Kirkwood, milloy and steel apart ftom others which are numerous, graham mcilroy. stewart.brown battonisle of sku rothsay etc.
 searl rogers sutherland
Edinburgh/Aberdeen:portsea marsh,brownwhittcomb and others. to numerous to mentionweymouth frank.  Laidlaw,Brown,Dean//Charles/Hall/Slight/Johnston belgium loquet