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Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 13:11 BST (UK) »
Definition:

Step sister
a daughter of one's step-parent by a marriage other than with one's own father or mother.

Half sister

a sister with whom one has only one parent in common.

So it depends which it is here. Either way they are not removed.
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Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 16:20 BST (UK) »
And by extension, if A and B had children (G, H,), then A re-married to C, who had had children with D ( M, N, ), then that next generation would be stepchildren to each other..
BUT if B had previously had a child with X, call it T, then surely that child would not really be a relative
of C & D's children, would it?
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Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 20:01 BST (UK) »
And by extension, if A and B had children (G, H,), then A re-married to C, who had had children with D ( M, N, ), then that next generation would be stepchildren to each other..
BUT if B had previously had a child with X, call it T, then surely that child would not really be a relative
of C & D's children, would it?
If A and B have children G,H
and C and D had children M,N
and A remarried C and had further children P,Q

X=====B=====A=====C=====D
   |     |     |     |
   T    G,H   P,Q   M,N


then GH and MN are all half-brothers/half-sisters to PQ, having 1 common parent not 2.
but GH are step-brothers/step-sisters to MN.  They have no common parent at all.  Not blood relations.
T would be G and H's half-sibling, but again no relation to M and N.  I suppose T would be a step-step-sibling or something.
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Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 26 October 17 13:49 BST (UK) »
Your diagram illustrates it far better than my wordy account. Thank you, JohninSussex.
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Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 26 October 17 14:56 BST (UK) »
And by extension, if A and B had children (G, H,), then A re-married to C, who had had children with D ( M, N, ), then that next generation would be stepchildren to each other..
BUT if B had previously had a child with X, call it T, then surely that child would not really be a relative
of C & D's children, would it?
If A and B have children G,H
and C and D had children M,N
and A remarried C and had further children P,Q

X=====B=====A=====C=====D
   |     |     |     |
   T    G,H   P,Q   M,N


then GH and MN are all half-brothers/half-sisters to PQ, having 1 common parent not 2.
but GH are step-brothers/step-sisters to MN.  They have no common parent at all.  Not blood relations.
T would be G and H's half-sibling, but again no relation to M and N.  I suppose T would be a step-step-sibling or something.
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Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 20 November 17 23:30 GMT (UK) »
I know that, just beeing siily, its just that they halfsisters to my half sistersits judst as well i dont thnk he had any chidren wiyh his third wife
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Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 21 November 17 12:40 GMT (UK) »
My late husband was married twice.  He had two children with his first wife, and one child with me, his second wife.  I had no children with my first husband.

My daughter and his children from his first marriage are half-siblings.
I am step-mother to the children of his first marriage.
Had I had a child from my first marriage, that child and my daughter would be half-siblings, and my husband's elder children would be step-siblings to that child and not actually blood relatives.
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Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 03:26 GMT (UK) »
yesI share in common with my half sisters'my mother, douglas whose dead sarah was my stepfather, but father to my three halfsisters, then he divorced my mother and married vf and had another two daughters, these chidren are both parents children(in other words they are not the products of her having a previous relationship, so they are my half sisters' half sisters, and no relation to me. this I know but it was fun testing it out. its a shame that t does not see that it could be good if she would just embrace it and make friends with them l & e as they all have the same surname although my three sisters are no all marriedand are about 10 years older than their half sisters'
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Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 12:15 GMT (UK) »
You can have her removed as many times as you wish, but if she keeps coming back then you may as well keep her

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