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Help reading a Marriage and death recold please
« on: Tuesday 24 October 17 12:29 BST (UK) »
Hello trying to work out a marriage and death record. John Collins Vetters my 3rd great uncle. I think it says suicide :-/ But more interested in his father, which I am sure is mentioned on both, as have struggled to find until now. Also his mothers maiden name. I always thought it was Vetters and there was no father around, but after a few guesses and pot lucking buying a few records on Scotland's people I have find these two records which matches him for sure. 

Any help with it all please, I believe it is Margaret Richardson he married, can't work out any other names or her daughters who reported his death.

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Re: Help reading a Marriage and death recold please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 24 October 17 12:30 BST (UK) »
Hope this works

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Re: Help reading a Marriage and death recold please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 24 October 17 12:40 BST (UK) »
Comato Asphyxia as result of suicidal strangulation 1 day, as certified by ...
Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days alive.

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Re: Help reading a Marriage and death recold please
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 24 October 17 12:41 BST (UK) »
It looks like only a mother's name is given, which I read as "Isabella Ewing Burns Vetters" (occupation "Printfield Worker"). Unless it's two names ... Isabella Ewing and Burns Vetters. But I assumed it was one long name because the other set of parents on the marriage certificate are separated by an "and".


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Re: Help reading a Marriage and death recold please
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 24 October 17 12:51 BST (UK) »
So is this his christening?:

JOHN Vetters 18 April 1867, Cardros, Dunbartonm Scotland
Mother ISABELLA Vetters

1891 Census
Old Kilpatrick, Dumbarton
Isabella Vetters, 47, Retires Printfield Worker, born Inverkip, Renfrew 
John Vetters, 23, Son, Wood Cleaner, born Cardross, Dumbarton
Mary Vetters, 18, Daug, Paper Mill Worker, born  Old Kilpatrick, Dumbarton

1901 Census
Isabella Vetter, 53
John C Vetter, 33



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Re: Help reading a Marriage and death recold please
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 24 October 17 12:52 BST (UK) »
He killed himself in his cell in HM Prison Duke St Glasgow

Married Margaret Richardson widow maiden name Kerr

The column with daughter in says ?c/o Richardson Step Daughter


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Re: Help reading a Marriage and death recold please
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 24 October 17 13:07 BST (UK) »
I don’t know what if any significance it has but he is given the second name of Collins and his sister has the second name of Thomson.

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Re: Help reading a Marriage and death recold please
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 24 October 17 13:12 BST (UK) »
There is no Father on MARY THOMSON Vetter's Birth either.
3 Mar 1873
Old Kilpatrick, Dunbarton, Mother ISABELLA  Veeters

This appears to be Isabella Parents in 1841 in Inerkip, Renfrewshire;
Arch Vetters, 30, Quarrier
Mary Vetters, 30
Mary Vetters, 10
Marion Vetters, 6
Elisabeth Vetters, 5
John Vetters, 3
Collin Vetters, 1

1851 in Milton, Dunbartonshire;
Archibald Vetars, 40, Head, Quarrier, born Campbellton, argyleshire
Mary Thomson, 30, Wife, born Campbellton, argyleshire
Marion Vetars, 19
Elizabeth Vetars, 15
John Vetars, 13
Colin Vetars, 10
ISABELLA Vetars, 8*****
Archibald Vetars   , 6
Christopher Vetars, 4


1861 Archibald is;
Archibald Veters born c 1810 Shetland, Island of
 
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Re: Help reading a Marriage and death recold please
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 24 October 17 13:14 BST (UK) »
The Thomson comes from Isabellas Mother.

The second name may be Colin, not Collins as the name christian name Colin in in the Family.
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