Nicholls / Walsh family Avoca Vic

[sparrett]

One chap named Charles Edward PUGH married Ellen Laura.
She had been previously surnamed BALLANTYNE
Married PUGH in the name of St CLAIR.

There is an indexing for a child parents Ellen Laura BALLANTYNE and Henry Frederick St CLAIR

Marriage in Vic.

St CLAIR, Ellen Laura
PUGH, Charles Edward
1857
Reg.1252

Sue

[sparrett]

Another name  to throw into the mix is Elizabeth Ann Patterson Blyth Walsh....attach an Unwin also for birth of son...Ellen Laura Pugh St Clair...Eliza Pugh Dinighan...William Storier Patterson...Charles edward pugh ...Charles Edward walsh ...son Edward Patterson Walsh..on marriage cert wedding held at house of Patterson ?? Been in and out of bdm index and Trove and associated freebies looks like another cert coming up wich one ? thank Craig

This quote from your other associated thread linked previously.
 
It makes very little sense and seems to be very jumbled.
If you are really seeking advice or help, perhaps you could more clearly specify your meaning here.

I suggest to you (as I do to many others) that you use UPPERCASE in your typing to distinguish a surname from given names.  It really is a great help and can prevent confusion and it  is a 'usual way'

I cannot see how you have made a connection to a son born to a woman Elizabeth BLYTH at Ararat in 1859 named Edward UNWIN with Father Charles UNWIN
 
Can you elaborate.

On the marriage WALSH/NICOLLS certificate where exactly was the marriage?

Sue

[Dirtypaw]

Many thanks sue the exact place of the marriage between John NICHOLLS and Augusta Susan WALSH was the County of Kara Kara Shire of Avoca Victoria Australia town of Warrenmang at the house of Mr or Mrs PATTERSON  ....
Edward Patterson WALSH brother of the previously mentioned Augusta had no date of death only thing
associated was UNWIN / BLYTH....I m getting a real lesson here thanks to all..Craig NICHOLLS       

[sparrett]

The marriages located for Charles Edward PUGH/WALSH
are-
PUGH, Charles Edward to Ellen Laura St CLAIR (see above) and
PUGH Charles Edward to Lucy Isabelle PARDOE see Replies #25 and #26.on page 3 this thread.
The latter is certainly the man who died in 1902

The death of Edward Patterson WALSH whom you call brother to Augusta.

Edward Patterson WALSH
Age 76
At Castlemaine,
Father  Chas *Butler Walsh
Mother Elizth Blyth
Year 1934
Reg  15986

*possibly an error on the part of the informant.??
Edward Patterson WALSH had a son named Charles Butler WALSH

I have not located his birth.
Elizabeth Ann BLYTH had at least three children surnamed PATTERSON before she married William PATTERSON in 1883

PATTERSON, Wm. (born Dundee)
WALSH, Elizabeth Ann (born Cork)
Yr 1883
Reg 363

In his will Wiliam PATTERSON bequeaths the small estate to be divided equally between his wife (the executrix) and his two children whom he names as William John and Isabelle Margaret.
Edward Patterson WALSH is not mentioned.

There was the dissolution of a business partnership between William and Edward in 1883.
 
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/8510306

 

Sue

[Dirtypaw]

Great work Sue ...I believe brother was a reference made in an obituary from Augusta referencing her (brother) but Edward Patterson WALSH was possibly her half brother an was born UNWIN wich may explain him not  being included in the will of William PATTERSON ?....thanks for your help Craig NICHOLLS.

[sparrett]

I cannot see your ongoing statement of connection between the UNWIN birth at Ararat and the   Elizabeth Ann BLYTH of your interest

Birth
UNWIN, Edward.
Father Charles UNWIN
Mother Elizabeth BLYTH
Yr 1859
Reg 3527

Why do you think this is The child Edward Patterson WALSH?
Do you have other evidence suggesting the connection?
I see none.
Sue

[Dirtypaw]

Hi Peter thanks for the reply.. on the copy of the marriage certificate for our John NICHOLLS it reads as mothers name Sarah NICHOLLS/NICHOLLS not Sarah SHED as on your post....? 

[Dirtypaw]

Hello again sue i  do not have solid proof of the UNWIN WALSH connection however just counted back using date at death of 76 giving an approximation but point taken even though its a small population with a not so common name nothing should be determined without backup....thanks for the lesson....it could be called clutching for straws ...Craig

[bitzar]

Sue

This is what I found that linked Susan Augusta and Edward Patterson.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/88044041?searchTerm=elizabeth%20patterson%20nicholls&searchLimits=

I too cannot find a birth for William Patterson WHAT EVER HIS BIRTH SURNAME MAY BE.  William Storier PATTERSON does not include him as his issue in his will though.  Patterson may of been added as a middle name because of a relationship at a young age.

Charles Edward PUGH also married an Elizabeth STEPHENS in England in 1843.

If Charles Edward PUGH is Charley WALSH then he returned to England in the 1860-70's with his comedy show and then returned to Australia.

bitzar.

EDITED: name error.