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Penarth Cement works
« on: Wednesday 25 October 17 10:22 BST (UK) »
Hi
Walter Johnson Cooper ran the Penarth Cement works. I have found him and his family on the 1901 census with his wife and daughters Annie 1895 and Doris 1899. I believe there was another daughter and a son but cannot find them. Walter was born in 1868 in Walsall and married Mary Annie Shepperd in 1893 in Penarth.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Dewis - London
Garmonsway - London
Craze - Dunster
Francis - Hilperton
Llewellyn - Cardiff & Pembroke

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Re: Penarth Cement works
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 10:59 BST (UK) »
Missing son, only 3 children born to couple by 1911 stated one died

COOPER, WALTER  ALFRED STUART  mmn   SHEPHERD     
GRO Reference: 1907  J Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 477   

Death :COOPER, WALTER  ALFRED STUART    14  Mths?
GRO Reference: 1908  J Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 236   
 
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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Penarth Cement works
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 11:04 BST (UK) »
Daughters

COOPER, ANNIE  MARJORIE ELLEN    mmn SHEPHERD 
GRO Reference: 1894  D Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 302   

COOPER, DORIS  JOAN     mmn SHEPHERD 
GRO Reference: 1898  D Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 424   

1901 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSML-R1Q

1911 -  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW62-17R
 
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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Penarth Cement works
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 12:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks Cas for the info.  Strange the 1911 census states "only 3 children born to couple by 1911 stated one died " as I have a photo dated 5th August 1913 which has written on it "the Misses Cooper and Brother. There are three girls in the photo. Given that Walter Johnson Cooper married in 1893 and their daughter Annie Marjorie was born in 1894 I presume the missing daughter and son from the census records were born after this time?? The brother looks like a similar age to Annie 1894 whilst the other daughter looks similar in age to Doris.  Can you confirm their address was " The Elms" Lavernock Road.
Dewis - London
Garmonsway - London
Craze - Dunster
Francis - Hilperton
Llewellyn - Cardiff & Pembroke

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Re: Penarth Cement works
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 12:22 BST (UK) »
Yes that was the address given 1911. Maybe they were family in photo not siblings?

Newspapers & F M P have some stuff about Walter he was quite wealthy when died in 1928.

They married June 17th 1893 St Augustine Church, Penarth, small piece in Western Mail 23 June.

Added: marriage is online.

He died 27 May 1928 in Parkfield, Paighton Devon formerly of the Elms Lavernock. https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=Cooper&yearOfDeath=1928&page=9#calendar

A newspaper piece  after his death mentions daughters only, no names given.

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Penarth Cement works
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 19:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks again, how do you manage to find all this info? Gosh he was rich!
Are the newspaper articles online or do I need a subscription to FindMyPast?
I would welcome your opinion of the photo I have of the Cooper family to see if you agree they look like siblings? Can I attach a photo on a message?
Dewis - London
Garmonsway - London
Craze - Dunster
Francis - Hilperton
Llewellyn - Cardiff & Pembroke

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Re: Penarth Cement works
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 19:54 BST (UK) »
Off to work shortly, as for photo it has to be a certain size to upload if I rem correctly.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=130922.0

British newspapers online have all but you need a sub. I found them on F M P

If nobody else adds will have a look in morning

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Penarth Cement works
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 20:27 BST (UK) »
Witness on marriage Cert is Gerald Cooper (brother b c 1871) Alfred T Cooper & Hettie? Cooper (parents) also Alice Shepherd. Alfred Thomas his father was an Engineer. They were married by license.

I cannot find any evidence that he had any more children up to 1911, he was a Bach in 1893 when married.

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Penarth Cement works
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 21:15 BST (UK) »
Online tree for brother Gerald, he was a photographer

http://www.shamrockspider.com/genealogy/familygroup.php?familyID=F966&tree=MWTNG7

Has children around Walters daughters age, possible cousins & siblings?

How do you know were and when photo taken?  is there any info written on pic?
Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall