Problem finding Monaghan records in Irishgenealogy.ie

[Eamann]

I have returned to my family history research after a few years of neglect and I was looking forward to getting copies of birth certificates of my O’Rourke family who were born in Co. Monaghan. To my consternation I cannot find them! Not even my grandfather Patrick O’Rourke whose certificate I already have! Is there a problem with the site and its search engine or am I doing something wrong? Here are the birth dates of those I tried to look up:

Francis Joseph, 1890
Mary Josephine, 1 April 1892, Gallina
Catherine, 1894, Monaghan town
Patrick, 20 July 1896, Lathlurkin (now spelt Latlorcan)

The parents were Patrick O’Rourke, RIC constable, and Margaret Brady. I have already their marriage certificate of 29 April 1889, but cannot find it on Irishgenealogy.

Are other people having the same problem?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Beir bua is beannacht

[hallmark]

Religion?

[KGarrad]

If you search for a marriage of Margaret Brady, 1889, you will find the marriage

Patrick's surname is spelled Orourke (no apostrophe!)

[hallmark]

Francis  ??

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Monaghan/Monaghan_Rural/Lattorcan/1638279/

[Eamann]

Thank you both Hallmark and KGarrad!

I am surprised that the search engine of Irishgenealogy does not take into account the variations of names beginning (or not) with O'.

I have just done a search leaving out the apostrophe and I have found Francis, Mary and Patrick.

No doubt if I try other variants, like Orourke, I will find the others.

The moderator can consider this problem solved.

[Sinann]

O' names can often cause a problem, you need to play around with it.
O'Rourke
Orourke
Rourke
O Rourke
O rourke
and than there are the different spellings of Rourke
Rorke and so on.
I've got O'Rourke as well and sometimes I give up on the surname and just search by first name, district and year.

[KGarrad]

I think it's because there is a subtle difference between O'Rourke, Rourke, Roark, O'Roark (and other variants) and Orourke?

Here, in the Isle of Man, we have a brewery called Okells. It is most definitely not O'Kells!
It was founded by Dr. William Okell from Warrington

On the other hand, I did a tree for a friend, maiden name O'Reilly.
And almost immediately got stuck because some of her father's records were simply Reilly!

[Eamann]

Thanks, Sinann. I have noted your list and will use it if needed.

[Eamann]

Thanks again KGarrad! It is not a question of subtle differences. It is just the result of the English-speaking officials in 19th. century Ireland trying to put down in writing the Irish names they were hearing. The Irish form of the name, which I use, is Ó Ruairc. This leads to further variants such as Ruarc, Ruark, etc. I once saw a site or blog about the O'Rourke's and it listed, I think, 30 odd variants found in the USA...!