Elizabeth McIntyre Paterson

[rosie17]

See Reply #12

I haven't seen the census with the McIntyres but it if they had children b Scotland it may be worth checking a child's BC to find out the mother's m/s to see if a connection can be made i.e. a reason Elizabeth was with them 

Annie

1861 Census address 4,Sir Michael Street Greenock Renfrewshire
John McIntyre age 30 born Tyrone Ireland occupation blacksmith
Mary McIntyre age30 born Armagh Ireland
Thos Patterson age 26 sugarhouse labourer
Elisabeth Patterson age 24
 Jas Patterson b Greenock 7 months
Thomas McIntyre at 28 b Tyrone

No children for this couple 

Thought I had found this couple in the 1871 Census address 1,Bruce Street Greenock
John McIntyre age 30 (blacksmith house shoe ) Horse ..born Ireland note same age
Mary Anne McIntyre at 35 born Ireland
Eliza McIntyre age 9 born Greenock daughter..

There is a birth for a Eliza McIntyre 1861 Greenock so I would say this is the daughter of this couple 

Rosie

[Rosinish]

What was her address on her Marriage certificate

Her address at the time of her marriage is the same as her husband's,

  Can you tell us what that address was please & the names of the witnesses?

There's this  ...

1881

Lizzie Paterson 18 Servant, b Paisley, Renfrewshire (not Greenock) 
5 Stow St, Paisley Low Church, Paisley

Registration Number 573
Registration district Paisley
County Renfrewshire
ED 64
Household schedule number 77
LINE 20
Roll cssct1881_174

Others in the household all surname Percy, all b Renfrew

Francis 34
Agnes 33
Lizzie 7
Jane 5
Agnes 4
Isabella 3
Rebecca 1
Lizzie Paterson 18

Annie

[sheenamac]

HI everyone.  I'm picking up the pieces again after a year and I've been re-reading your comments.  I've found a Greenock death certificate for an Ann Singleton, ms Blaikley, 1880 ae 60.  Widow of (1) John Black and (2) Thomas Singleton.  This might explain why Elizabeth McIntyre Paterson has her mother listed with the surname Black on her marriage and death certificate.  Ann died at 19 Sir Michael Street, and the death was registered by her son John Black, 27 Sugarhouse Lane. I suppose it's possible that this Ann is the mother of Elizabeth Singleton, but I don't have much to go on.  Although I've found John Black on a number of census records, I don't have enough to identify him, and I haven't found Ann on any census for Greenock.  Any thought?
Regards Sheena
(I promise I won't pack my FH away for another year)

[brigidmac]

Can you give the details of Patersons staying with MacIntyre's In 1851 please

 There was a very convuluted story in  my family involving these names
An adopted son +  2 MacIntyre children who were actually Patersons
I.ll have a look and see if dates and places correspond

[sheenamac]

Brilliant.  It's night time here in Australia and we're going out for dinner with friends, but I'll have a look at it tomorrow.

Sheena

[Forfarian]

Jusat a thought. In an 1861 census somewhere upthread is a child Mary Anne, aged 7. Could she have had a change of name to Elizabeth at some point? Have you found her in any later records?

Edit (later) No, that won't wash.
From the (community indexed) IGI the family were
Eliza McIntyre born 24 May 1862
Mary Ann born 27 March 1864
Maria born 12 April 1866
Thomas and William born 17 April 1868
Margaret 6 April 1870
Thomas born 6 April 1872

Maybe Elizabeth was just left off the census by mistake in 1871 when the enumerator copied the schedule into the enumeration book? It can happen.

[brigidmac]

Am I right in thinking you haven't found Elizsbeth s birth records yet ?

[Forfarian]

Have you checked the death certificate of Thomas Paterson and the marriage certificate of Mary Paterson to Joseph Bustin to see if they were siblings?

[sheenamac]

HI BrigidMac

Re the Paterson/McIntyre connection.  Census Sir Michael Street, Greenock 1861.   John McIntyre, 30,head, Blacksmith b Tyrone, Ireland. Mary McIntyre, 30, b Armagh, Thomas Paterson, 26, Boarder, b Armagh,  Elizabeth Paterson, 24, b Armagh, Thomas McIntyre, 28, boarder, b Tyrone.  The "missing" baby Elizabeth (b1862) has been given the middle name of McIntyre.  Some thoughts are that Mary MIntyre might be the sister of Thomas Paterson, and that Thomas McIntyre might be John's brother.  I've got a few ideas to follow up.

Let me know if this gives you any ideas.

Sheena