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Re: Elizabeth McIntyre Paterson
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 26 October 17 18:15 BST (UK) »
Where were Thomas Paterson and Elizabeth Singleton married & what was his occ. on Elizabeth's birth?

Could he have been a Journeyman or specialist occ. which took him to different places?


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Thomas Patterson and Elizabeth are in Greenock on the 1871/1881/1891 /1901 census no Elizabeth with them on any census forms ...
His occupation Labourer /Sugarhouse Labourer / Labourer in chemical work

Several trees have his marriage 1858 in Ireland

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Re: Elizabeth McIntyre Paterson
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 26 October 17 20:55 BST (UK) »
thanks all. You've raised a couple of good points.  Port Glasgow is a reasonable thought to consider.  Her parents were married in Lurgan, Armagh, and he worked as a sugarhouse labourer by all accounts. Other children are on the census records but Elizabeth (eliza) just goes missing.  My guess is that she's been boarded out, but why and where remains the mystery.  Her address at the time of her marriage is the same as her husband's, and her mother is listed as Elizabeth Black and not Singleton.  Even that error might suggest a distance between her and her parents, though her father and brother are with her in the 1911 census.

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Re: Elizabeth McIntyre Paterson
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 26 October 17 22:40 BST (UK) »
I've been following this but as yet cannot help. I have Thomas on the db 1881 and 1891 - a labourer but no trade mentioned in 1871 - and can't find him in 1901. He'd have been a widower which might be making it more difficult.  Maybe Rosie or Sheena can point him out, please.

Can be no help with place of work. No employee lists appear to have survived, and with Greenock been a small town each of the sugarhouses would have been within walking distance. Map of sugarhouses at  www.mawer.clara.net/loc-greenock.html .
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Re: Elizabeth McIntyre Paterson
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 26 October 17 22:46 BST (UK) »
see them on the 1861 census with the McIntyre family but don't seem to find The McIntyre family on later census forms ..I think if she was in a hospital she would  still appear on census forms

Are the McIntyre's b Ireland?

Could it be they returned to Ireland taking Elizabeth with them & the name being a good possibility of a family connection?

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Re: Elizabeth McIntyre Paterson
« Reply #13 on: Friday 27 October 17 11:22 BST (UK) »
I've been following this but as yet cannot help. I have Thomas on the db 1881 and 1891 - a labourer but no trade mentioned in 1871 - and can't find him in 1901. He'd have been a widower which might be making it more difficult.  Maybe Rosie or Sheena can point him out, please.

1871 census address 1 Sir Michael Street Greenock Renfrewshire
Thomas Paterson age 30 b Ireland ( labourer )
Elizabeth Paterson age 26 b Ireland
James Paterson age 12 b Greenock
Mary Ann Paterson age 7 b Greenock
Maria Paterson age 5 b Greenock
Margaret Paterson age 11 months b Greenock 

Death for Elizabeth Paterson 1892 Greenock age 48 ref 564/2545 other surname Singleton ..Think her age might be wrong as going by her marriage in 1858 she would have just been 14

Have see the birth certificate on a tree for the birth of Elizabeth McIntyre Paterson and it lists her parents as Thomas Paterson and Elizabeth Singleton with a marriage date for this couple 1858 Ireland ...
Marriage and death has the mother's name as Elizabeth Black is this your tree Sheena? might be worth while getting the death certificate for the mother ...

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Re: Elizabeth McIntyre Paterson
« Reply #14 on: Friday 27 October 17 11:32 BST (UK) »
Did Thomas Paterson marry again ? as there is a possibility this is him on the 1901 census
Address 10.Inchgreen Street Greenock
Thomas Paterson age 57 b Ireland ( labourer in chemical work )
Margaret Paterson age 63 b Ireland

There is a marriage for a Thomas Paterson to a Margaret Patton 1894 Johnstone and Elderslie

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Re: Elizabeth McIntyre Paterson
« Reply #15 on: Friday 27 October 17 12:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Rosie.

From the excellent Intimations at Inverclyde Library ...

Death Patterson Elizabeth 1892
Elizabeth Singleton, wife of Thomas Paterson, died at 5 Tobago St, Greenock in November 1892 (Greenock Telgraph 12.11.1892)

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Interesting that if Thomas was a chemical worker in 1901 census, then both he and John Stewart possibly worked together 1891 (sugar), 1901 (chemical works where John was foreman and maybe in a position to provide his father-in-law with work)
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Re: Elizabeth McIntyre Paterson
« Reply #16 on: Friday 27 October 17 12:46 BST (UK) »
Yes they most probably did work together still no luck finding Elizabeth  ??? maybe she was spending time in Ireland with family members

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Re: Elizabeth McIntyre Paterson
« Reply #17 on: Friday 27 October 17 14:06 BST (UK) »
See Reply #12

I haven't seen the census with the McIntyres but it if they had children b Scotland it may be worth checking a child's BC to find out the mother's m/s to see if a connection can be made i.e. a reason Elizabeth was with them  :-\

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"