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Re: Harriet Bailey Aka Martina Ross
« Reply #18 on: Friday 27 October 17 01:05 BST (UK) »
Sorry Louisa I didn't get any emails notifications.
I have seen that Florence and wondered if it is her.
I have found Felicitas leaving for Canada again address is 18 Gladys road but no luck with Marcia
The family use Rosscarbur as well as Ross to make it more confusing
I have found Benedict 1st wife Winifred on 1901 and 1911 with another family but also with son William Herbert Ross bn 1895
The other mystery is how Martina went from a widow to being a home owner of a very large house ,on the later electrol rolls her and Benedict are the only occupants or have I got that completely wrong ?

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Re: Harriet Bailey Aka Martina Ross
« Reply #19 on: Friday 27 October 17 07:46 BST (UK) »
This gets more complicated as time goes on

The only William Herbert Ross s I can find circa 1895 are the following

William Herbert Ross 1895 Paddington MMN Wicks
William Herbert Ross Coventry MMN Southorn

I suggest Paddington might be the one as the St Augustine's school and church are not that fara way

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Harriet Bailey Aka Martina Ross
« Reply #20 on: Friday 27 October 17 07:58 BST (UK) »
Benedict John Andrew Ross father John Gardner Ross
married 03/07/1876
Kensington
to
Winifred Wicks father William Wicks

So William Herbert belongs to this couple

No further info on him so far

As regards to the "big house" was there a will leaving such a property to her

LM
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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Harriet Bailey Aka Martina Ross
« Reply #21 on: Friday 27 October 17 08:22 BST (UK) »
The first time I can find Benedict Ross in 18 Gladys Road is 1918, is it possible for you to find who lived there prior to them moving in, perhaps a relative left the house to them as a gift,

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London


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Re: Harriet Bailey Aka Martina Ross
« Reply #22 on: Friday 27 October 17 08:27 BST (UK) »
The Ross family are shown as CARBUR on one census which has been corrected to Ross

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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Harriet Bailey Aka Martina Ross
« Reply #23 on: Friday 27 October 17 09:19 BST (UK) »
In the 1881 census, Kensington, Middlesex

Benedict J ROSS, head, 23, gasfitter, Scotland
Winifred do, wife, 23,
3 children
St Thomas S do, 3
Winifred do, 1
Benedict J do, 3

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Re: Harriet Bailey Aka Martina Ross
« Reply #24 on: Friday 27 October 17 09:34 BST (UK) »
In 1861, St Marylebone, Marylebone, Middlesex

John ROSS, head, 32, church decorator (a word), Kent Gillingham
Elizabeth do, wife, 34,
Benedict do, son, 3
Mary do, daughter, 1


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Re: Harriet Bailey Aka Martina Ross
« Reply #25 on: Friday 27 October 17 09:50 BST (UK) »
Benedict is in Folkestone in 1901

Both Martina's are at Gladys road by 1902 according to school records.

A school record has Martina Ross admitted to Netherwood school 2nd July 1902 and leaving 22nd May 1906. However a second record on 28th May 1903 has her as a readmission and the reason given is absent in Folkestone??

Then I fell over this which may cause more confusion

England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Martina E Morris
Spouse Benedict J Ross
Registration Year:1913
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district  Willesden
Volume: 3a
Page:426

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Re: Harriet Bailey Aka Martina Ross
« Reply #26 on: Friday 27 October 17 10:50 BST (UK) »
Yes, more confusion, why the change of names I wonder.

Perhaps she lived with Mr Morris before she married Benedict Ross and took on the name Morris, there are so many names floating about for this woman, a birth cert would be a good idea

I am beginning to become confused.com ???

Louisa Maud
Census information is Crown Copyright,
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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London