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Offline Cocoa Fairy

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Re: Harriet Bailey Aka Martina Ross
« Reply #90 on: Saturday 17 March 18 13:23 GMT (UK) »
The pupil registered immediately before St Thomas Carbur on the school record is Ernest Blundell, son of Edward, of....52 Messina Avenue!

Benedict uses the surname Carbur in the 1891 census, 1893 electoral regeister and 1901 census.
He is 'Carbury' on the 1891 electoral register, then becomes 'Rosscarbur' on 1905 & 1908 ERs and in the 1911 census!  Sadly, I have no idea why.  Possibly trying to avoid being found by his wife Winifred?

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Re: Harriet Bailey Aka Martina Ross
« Reply #91 on: Saturday 17 March 18 13:29 GMT (UK) »
Wish it was that simple ...sadly Winifred uses it as well
Do you know anything of Benedict's mother Elizabeth Breen .I am trying to find Benedict on 1871 census and as he is not with his father and new step mother I wondered if he was with her family.
Also daughter Murcia had a son in Scotland in 1924 and we have picture of Benedict in a kilt so do we have a Scottish connection (apart from his grandmother) that I have missed ?

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Re: Harriet Bailey Aka Martina Ross
« Reply #92 on: Saturday 17 March 18 15:53 GMT (UK) »
So far
Elizabeth Ross MMN Breen
1861
John Ross aged 32 shown born Gillingham ?
Elizabeth 34 Lambeth
Benedict 3 London
Mary 1 London

looked for births MMN Breen, came up with the following

James Edmund 1862 Pancras
Benedict John 1858 Marylebone
Martina Margaret 1864 Marylebone
John Gardin  1867 Marylebone
John 1868 Marylebone

As you know Martina aged 11 and her sister Mary are in a  catholic  school , Clarendon Sq

Can't as yet find any on 1871

Still looking for more info on Elizabeth

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Re: Harriet Bailey Aka Martina Ross
« Reply #93 on: Monday 16 December 19 16:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi we seem to be researching the same family tree . Could I ask if they are relatives

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Re: Harriet Bailey Aka Martina Ross
« Reply #94 on: Monday 16 December 19 18:03 GMT (UK) »
I was researching the family for a friend and it became a obsession once I started discovering all the mystery.
If you know what happened to the daughters of Martina I would love to know or if you know who she actually was ?

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Re: Harriet Bailey Aka Martina Ross
« Reply #95 on: Monday 16 December 19 19:48 GMT (UK) »
Let's hope it will make sense  to you now that someone hopefully is chasing the same family

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Harriet Bailey Aka Martina Ross
« Reply #96 on: Monday 16 December 19 19:54 GMT (UK) »
Be lovely if they could Louisa ,Martina's family tree is probably the most confusing I had ever come across and one I could never solve.
Would love to know who she actually was !

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Re: Harriet Bailey Aka Martina Ross
« Reply #97 on: Monday 16 December 19 19:59 GMT (UK) »
I found it intriguing at the time, bet you thought you had put this one to bed ?

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Harriet Bailey Aka Martina Ross
« Reply #98 on: Monday 16 December 19 20:01 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: louisa maud on Monday 16 December 19 19:59 GMT (UK)
I found it intriguing at the time, bet you thought you had put this one to bed ?

Louisa Maud

I had but it someone else has some more info I know I will be sucked straight in again.I hate unsolved mysteries 😁😁
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