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John Chambers c1669
« on: Friday 27 October 17 00:48 BST (UK) »
Is anyone able to check the parish registers of Pluckley for the christening of John Chambers between 1666 and 1670?

John Chambers married Susan Bourne in Egerton in 1690 and may have been from Pluckley as that is where his children were christened. Susan herself may have come from Pluckley or Egerton but I'm not sure yet.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks

Matt

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Re: John Chambers c1669
« Reply #1 on: Friday 27 October 17 01:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Matt

I can't see anything in Pluckley but I can see three baptisms, one in Coldred but possibly too far away, one in Throwley which is about 8 miles from Pluckley, and one in Teynham 16 miles from Pluckley.

John Chambers baptised 13 Jun 1665 Throwley son of John Chambers

John Chambers baptised 31 Mar 1669 Coldred son of John & Susan Chambers

John Chambers baptised 19 Jan 1670 Teynham son of Margaret.

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Re: John Chambers c1669
« Reply #2 on: Friday 27 October 17 01:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Matt

I can't see anything in Pluckley but I can see three baptisms, one in Coldred but possibly too far away, one in Throwley which is about 8 miles from Pluckley, and one in Teynham 16 miles from Pluckley.

John Chambers baptised 13 Jun 1665 Throwley son of John Chambers

John Chambers baptised 31 Mar 1669 Coldred son of John & Susan Chambers

John Chambers baptised 19 Jan 1670 Teynham son of Margaret.

claire

Hiya

Yes the only one I've found so far is the John christened in Coldred in 1669, or rather I should say the only record I've got is of his parents marriage. His parents were John Chambers and Susan Browninge who married by Licence at Canterbury in 1666 (Licence dated 11 Sept 1666). According to the Licence he was 23 and of Coldred and she was 30 and (also) of Coldred (although I think she may have actually been from the nearby parish of Sibertswold).

Coldred certainly seems a bit too far from the Pluckly area though, but it is one to keep in mind.

Is there any sign of a burial for the John in Throwley? Or are there any siblings? If it's possible to eliminate him by 'killing him off' or work out if there was a particular set of names used in the family, then it might be easier to work out which John is the one I need.

If only John Chambers and Susan Bourne had married by Licence then there might be a clue as to where he came from.

To be continued.......

Matt

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Re: John Chambers c1669
« Reply #3 on: Friday 27 October 17 02:12 BST (UK) »
Hi

No burial for John in Throwley but there is one more baptism - a sibling which does give the mothers name too

Christopher Chambers baptised 11 Aug 1667 Throwley, St Michael & All Angels and son of JOHN and ANNA Chambers.

This couple married by licence on 25 Jul 1663

Additional info

John Chambers from Throwley a husbandman, aged 25 - surname on licence spelt CHAMBARS

Ann Simonson from Throwley aged 22.  On the licence it states she was from Little Chart ( which is very close to Pluckley)

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Re: John Chambers c1669
« Reply #4 on: Friday 27 October 17 18:39 BST (UK) »
Hi

No burial for John in Throwley but there is one more baptism - a sibling which does give the mothers name too

Christopher Chambers baptised 11 Aug 1667 Throwley, St Michael & All Angels and son of JOHN and ANNA Chambers.

This couple married by licence on 25 Jul 1663

Additional info

John Chambers from Throwley a husbandman, aged 25 - surname on licence spelt CHAMBARS

Ann Simonson from Throwley aged 22.  On the licence it states she was from Little Chart ( which is very close to Pluckley)

Claire

Hi Claire

Thanks for the update which I think might be useful. John Chambers married Susan Bourne in Egerton in 1690 and one of their sons was named Christopher (christened 1705 in Pluckley). Their eldest son Richard (my ancestor) married Elizabeth Wreight/Wright and their second son was also named Christopher. His brother, William, is my ancestor and he named one of his sons Christopher, as did one of his sons!

Do you know if John and Ann had any other children?

This certainly looks more promising than the other one.

Many thanks

Matt

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Re: John Chambers c1669
« Reply #5 on: Friday 27 October 17 19:11 BST (UK) »
Hi

A quick look suggests a John Chambers & Ann went on to Pluckley sometime after the birth of Christopher.

This definitely looks like the family you are after

Edward son of John & Ann Chambers Bapt. 17 July 1677 Pluckley.

Looks like Edward married a Jane Wilson in Pluckley 10 Sept. 1707.

Richard son of John & Ann Chambers Bapt. 14 Feb 1672 Pluckley.

Thomas son of John & Ann Chambers Bapt. 20 Dec. 1674 Pluckley.

There is also the marriage of an Ann Chambers in Pluckley 1689 to a Robert Cheeseman - wonder if she could be a sibling ? - I can't see a baptism .

Looks like an inventory of John Chambers goods & effects survived - there is a document listed for the year 1708. He was buried 17 September 1708.
Also a burial for Widow Chambers on 24 Feb 1712. Both burials in Pluckley.

Claire
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Re: John Chambers c1669
« Reply #6 on: Friday 27 October 17 23:49 BST (UK) »
Hi

A quick look suggests a John Chambers & Ann went on to Pluckley sometime after the birth of Christopher.

This definitely looks like the family you are after

Edward son of John & Ann Chambers Bapt. 17 July 1677 Pluckley.

Looks like Edward married a Jane Wilson in Pluckley 10 Sept. 1707.

Richard son of John & Ann Chambers Bapt. 14 Feb 1672 Pluckley.

Thomas son of John & Ann Chambers Bapt. 20 Dec. 1674 Pluckley.

There is also the marriage of an Ann Chambers in Pluckley 1689 to a Robert Cheeseman - wonder if she could be a sibling ? - I can't see a baptism .

Looks like an inventory of John Chambers goods & effects survived - there is a document listed for the year 1708. He was buried 17 September 1708.
Also a burial for Widow Chambers on 24 Feb 1712. Both burials in Pluckley.

Claire

Hi Claire

Thanks for this, it looks more and more like my lot. Interestingly I found a Will for John Chambers (1708) which I thought might be connected to my lot, but I wasn't sure until I saw your message mentioning the name "Robert Cheeseman". Robert is mentioned in this Will as John's "son-in-law" so I think that deffo ties this lot together.

Many thank for the help.

Matt

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Re: John Chambers c1669
« Reply #7 on: Friday 27 October 17 23:59 BST (UK) »

Hi again,

This is possibly Anne's baptism, it's the only one I can find in the area

ANNE Chambers bapt. 13 Nov 1668 at Challock, daughter of John.

claire

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Re: John Chambers c1669
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 28 October 17 00:22 BST (UK) »

Hi again,

This is possibly Anne's baptism, it's the only one I can find in the area

ANNE Chambers bapt. 13 Nov 1668 at Challock, daughter of John.

claire

Hiya

Is this another child of John and Ann?

Matt