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Shipping record from Germany to New Zealand
« on: Friday 27 October 17 07:52 BST (UK) »
Ok, I am throwing my hands up in the air and would rather be looking at a stereogram.

I have a Jakob GUCKERT who immigrated to New Zealand around 1862 according to his death record but I haven't been able to find his passage.

I have looked at the German shipping/archive database (HADIS) for the area that he was born but that only shows some of his relatives leaving for the USA some years later.

I looked at the Family Search shipping database for New Zealand but can't seem to find him under any permutations of his name.

The fellow was based in and around the Nelson area so this is a probable port of destination.

What other resources are there for this time period?
I did find a list of ships but no individualised lists: http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/shipping/mig-nz2.htm

Are you able to help me find this man please?
...out of, through, and back from New Zealand to the ends of the Earth

FRYER - MITCHELL - DUKE - WHYTE - McDONALD - TAYLOR - CARPENTER - HARRIS - WILLIAMS - CUNNINGHAME - LUCAS - WHITE - BOTHAM - HOLDAWAY - EYLES - OLSEN - CHASE - TRAILL - BAGGS - HASKINS - EDWARDS - CHING - SHIELDS - POLLARD - HOGAN - SMITH - STANLEY - HALL - ROBERTS - LARKHAM

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Re: Shipping record from Germany to New Zealand
« Reply #1 on: Friday 27 October 17 09:32 BST (UK) »
I note that he died on the West Coast, and was a goldminer. 1862 was the year of the gold rush in Otago......did he go there first? A lot of miners moved from Otago to the Coast, when the rush developed there.
Farrell  - Ayrshire
Cairns - Ayrshire
McCann - Ayrshire
Brown - Ayrshire
Petty - Yorkshire, Durham
Lucas - Staffordshire, Durham
Whitaker - Yorkshire
Thackrah - Yorkshire
Stephenson - Durham
Marshall - Yorkshire
Walker - Staffordshire, Southland New Zealand
McCullough -  Antrim, Southland New Zealand,
Cavanagh - Galway, Southland New Zealand
Anthony - Tipperary, Southland New Zealand
Bath - Cornwall, Tasmania, Southland
Brungot - Alesund, Norway; Southland
Bonthron - Fifeshire, Southland

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Re: Shipping record from Germany to New Zealand
« Reply #2 on: Friday 27 October 17 09:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks Johnf04.  That is a good question. 

There doesn't seem to be anything between his arrival date and his first marriage at 50 years old in 1883.
...out of, through, and back from New Zealand to the ends of the Earth

FRYER - MITCHELL - DUKE - WHYTE - McDONALD - TAYLOR - CARPENTER - HARRIS - WILLIAMS - CUNNINGHAME - LUCAS - WHITE - BOTHAM - HOLDAWAY - EYLES - OLSEN - CHASE - TRAILL - BAGGS - HASKINS - EDWARDS - CHING - SHIELDS - POLLARD - HOGAN - SMITH - STANLEY - HALL - ROBERTS - LARKHAM

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Re: Shipping record from Germany to New Zealand
« Reply #3 on: Friday 27 October 17 10:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Twiggy,

Just wondering what resources the Rootschatters on the Europe Board might have at their fingertips to help with finding the passage ... may never know until you ask.


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Re: Shipping record from Germany to New Zealand
« Reply #4 on: Friday 27 October 17 20:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks KHP.

I only just thought of that when I was typing the OP.

EDIT:
Have started a topic there now: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=781478
...out of, through, and back from New Zealand to the ends of the Earth

FRYER - MITCHELL - DUKE - WHYTE - McDONALD - TAYLOR - CARPENTER - HARRIS - WILLIAMS - CUNNINGHAME - LUCAS - WHITE - BOTHAM - HOLDAWAY - EYLES - OLSEN - CHASE - TRAILL - BAGGS - HASKINS - EDWARDS - CHING - SHIELDS - POLLARD - HOGAN - SMITH - STANLEY - HALL - ROBERTS - LARKHAM

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Re: Shipping record from Germany to New Zealand
« Reply #5 on: Friday 27 October 17 21:50 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast has a Jacob GUCKERT  aged 28yrs arriving in New York City in 1854.
I know the age is not quite right but it is a maybe

The ship looks like the R C Wintrop

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Re: Shipping record from Germany to New Zealand
« Reply #6 on: Friday 27 October 17 21:57 BST (UK) »

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Re: Shipping record from Germany to New Zealand
« Reply #7 on: Friday 27 October 17 22:37 BST (UK) »
Thanks Janette for the fresh perspective.

I believe there might have been one or two of the similar names who did go to the USA; and it's not beyond comprehension I guess that this one used that passage route either.

The relatives to the USA went in 1858, 1859 and 1867, but all from the one regional area thereby appearing in the HADIS database I talked about.

Perhaps this fellow voyaged to visit a family member and then carried on to NZ?
...out of, through, and back from New Zealand to the ends of the Earth

FRYER - MITCHELL - DUKE - WHYTE - McDONALD - TAYLOR - CARPENTER - HARRIS - WILLIAMS - CUNNINGHAME - LUCAS - WHITE - BOTHAM - HOLDAWAY - EYLES - OLSEN - CHASE - TRAILL - BAGGS - HASKINS - EDWARDS - CHING - SHIELDS - POLLARD - HOGAN - SMITH - STANLEY - HALL - ROBERTS - LARKHAM

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Re: Shipping record from Germany to New Zealand
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 28 October 17 00:14 BST (UK) »
There is an advertisement in an Adelaide german newspaper, from 1881, for a letter held at the GPO for Jacob GUCKERT.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/229123003?searchTerm=Guckert&searchLimits=exactPhrase|||anyWords|||notWords|||requestHandler|||dateFrom|||dateTo|||sortby
Farrell  - Ayrshire
Cairns - Ayrshire
McCann - Ayrshire
Brown - Ayrshire
Petty - Yorkshire, Durham
Lucas - Staffordshire, Durham
Whitaker - Yorkshire
Thackrah - Yorkshire
Stephenson - Durham
Marshall - Yorkshire
Walker - Staffordshire, Southland New Zealand
McCullough -  Antrim, Southland New Zealand,
Cavanagh - Galway, Southland New Zealand
Anthony - Tipperary, Southland New Zealand
Bath - Cornwall, Tasmania, Southland
Brungot - Alesund, Norway; Southland
Bonthron - Fifeshire, Southland