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Mary Ann Wake (and George Gibson) - South Shields -
« on: Friday 27 October 17 19:23 BST (UK) »
I have had a brick wall in my own line for a few years now.  None of the birth certificates I obtained had a father's name on them, which didn't help.

My 2 x Gt Grandfather was Joseph Gibson b.1857, Hetton-le-Hole.  His mother was Mary Ann Wake.
These are the records I started with, years ago.

1861

10 Union Street, Hetton le Hole

Mary Ann Wake, Head, Mar, Washerwoman, Durham So Shields
George Thos Gibson, Son, 9, Scholar, Scotland
John Gibson, 5, Scholar, Durham Hetton le Hole
Joseph Gibson, 3, Hetton le Hole
Matthew Gibson, 9mths, Hetton le Hole

RG 9; Piece: 3755; Folio: 68; Page: 25



1871

Hetton le Hole

Mary Gibson, Head, Wid, 44, Northumberland
Joseph Gibson, Son, 13, Coal Miner, Durham
William Gibson, Son, 7, Durham

RG10; Piece: 4984; Folio: 22; Page: 37


Now, Mr Gibson Snr is absent/dead in these census records.  And I have searched high and low for George Thomas Gibson, b.c.1852 in Scotland, with no luck.

As far as I can see, there is only one Gibson/Wake marriage:

20th February 1842
Parish of Jarrow in the county of Durham
George Gibson, Minor, Batchelor, Waterman, South Shields
Groom's Father: Charles Gibson, Waterman
Mary Ann Wake, Full age, Spinster, South Shields
Bride's Father: John Wake, Tailor/Sailor
Witnesses: John Wake & William Grieves

I have the following children for George and Mary Gibson:

Catherine Gibson, Q June 1843, South Shields (MMN Wake)
Jane Gibson, Q Sept 1845-1849, South Shields (MMN Wake)
John Gibson, Q Sept 1849-1849, South Shields (MMN Wake)
Margaret Gibson, Q June 1850-1850, South Shields (MMN Wake)
George Gibson, Q June 1851, South Shields (MMN Wake)
John Gibson, Q Sept 1855, Houghton le Spring (MMN Wake)
Joseph Gibson, Q Dec 1857, Houghton le Spring (MMN Wake)
Matthew Gibson, Q Sept 1860-1864, Houghton le Spring (No MMN)
William Gibson, Q June 1864, Houghton le Spring (No MMN)

Could it be that the George Gibson listed above is the George Thomas Gibson in the 1861 census?

I have then found this in 1851 (with a little help from revisiting a post from 2005!):

Brewery Lane, South Shields

George Gibson, Head, Mar, 28, Mariner, Durham South Shields
Mary Gibson, Wife, 30, Northumberland Percy Main
Catherine Gibson, 8, Durham South Shields

HO107; Piece: 2400; Folio: 216; Page: 15


I have census records from 1861 and 1871, but no others with any of the children on them, other than Joseph.

I haven't yet found records of George Gibson Snr or Mary (Ann) Wake with their parents.

If anyone could help or find any other snippets of information, I'd be most grateful!


Many thanks, Emma
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Re: Mary Ann Wake (and George Gibson) - South Shields -
« Reply #1 on: Friday 27 October 17 21:36 BST (UK) »
I may have found this:

1841

Commercial Road, Westoe, Jarrow, Durham

John Wake, 55, Taylor, N
Catherine Wake, 60, N

HO107; Piece: 298; Book: 4


And:

Death
Catharine Wake
Q Dec 1841
South Shields
Vol 24
Page 140
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Re: Mary Ann Wake (and George Gibson) - South Shields -
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 October 17 03:12 BST (UK) »

1861

10 Union Street, Hetton le Hole

Mary Ann Wake, Head, Mar, Washerwoman, Durham So Shields
George Thos Gibson, Son, 9, Scholar, Scotland
John Gibson, 5, Scholar, Durham Hetton le Hole
Joseph Gibson, 3, Hetton le Hole
Matthew Gibson, 9mths, Hetton le Hole

RG 9; Piece: 3755; Folio: 68; Page: 25




1871, possibles for George Thos. and John

46 Australia Row, Seaham
"Thomas" Gibson, 18, Boarder, Coal Miner, born Leith Scotland

47 Australia Row, Seaham
John Gibson, 16, Boarder, Coal Miner, born Hetton le Hole

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Re: Mary Ann Wake (and George Gibson) - South Shields -
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 28 October 17 08:47 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Thanks for your reply. It does sound good.

I have always clung on to the Scotland connection as, apart from a dabble in Northern Ireland elsewhere, I'm as English as they come, at least as far back as 1830...

However, the discovery of the George Gibson 1851 birth has thrown me. MMN Wake. I can't find another Gibson/Wake marriage and the age fits perfectly for George Thomas Gibson, allegedly from Scotland...  ::)
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Re: Mary Ann Wake (and George Gibson) - South Shields -
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 28 October 17 12:16 BST (UK) »
Do you have a marriage cert/record for any of the children? If so, what do they say about their Dad's name and occupation?

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Re: Mary Ann Wake (and George Gibson) - South Shields -
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 28 October 17 14:07 BST (UK) »
I do, which doesn't make anything clearer...

28th March 1880, Parish Church of Hetton-le-Hole, Durham
Joseph Gibson, 22, Bachelor, Miner, Hetton-le-Hole
Groom's Father: Joseph Gibson, Shoemaker
Elizabeth Ann Cowell, 23, Spinster, Hetton-le-Hole
Bride's Father: George Cowell, Signalman
Witnesses: George Wheatley & Ann Bowden

Signed with marks from both bride and groom.

Have never been able to find a Joseph Gibson Snr to fit the bill.
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Re: Mary Ann Wake (and George Gibson) - South Shields -
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 28 October 17 14:29 BST (UK) »
I have found this to rule out in 1841:
(This George is alive and kicking in 1851)

Temple Town, Jarrow, Durham

Charles Gibson, 55, Pitman, N
Dorathy Gibson, 60, N
Isabell Hogart, 25, N
Charles Hogart, 25, Blacksmith, N
Mary Ann Hogart, 15, N
George Gibson, 20, Pitman, Y
Thomas Mounsey, 25, Chemist, S

HO107; Piece: 298; Book: 2
Folio: 12; Page: 18





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