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Has anyone heard of Henry Turner, novelist?
« on: Saturday 28 October 17 14:53 BST (UK) »
In the 1881 census Henry Turner is described as "Senior examiner in the Exchequer Dept and novelist". I have him in 1861 described as clerk and in 1871 described as senior examiner in the audit department of the exchequer. However I have found nothing about his career as a novelist.

A brief background. Henry was born in Salford or Manchester, depending which census you believe, in 1829/1830, parents probably William Turner and Mary Alsey. In 1861 he had a wife named Minnie, aged 29, but I do not know what her surname was. Minnie must have died before 1867 because he married Jean Waddell Oswald on 14 March 1867 at St John The Evangelist, Notting Hill, London. They had a son Henry Jean O, born 1869. Jean died in 1869, in the same quarter as the birth of Henry Jean O. On 28 June 1871 Henry married Catherine Wilson Oswald, who was Jean's first cousin once removed. Henry and Catherine had two sons and two daughters, and I think Henry must be the Henry Turner who died in Fulham in 1886, aged 55. Catherine and her children emigrated to America in 1893. Henry Jean O had died in 1877. I have the 1861, 1871, and 1881 censuses and all the relevant birth, marriage and death references except Henry's birth/baptism and Minnie's birth/baptism, marriage and death.
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Re: Has anyone heard of Henry Turner, novelist?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 28 October 17 15:22 BST (UK) »
Just a thought...

He possibly had a 'Pen' name making it harder to locate his works?

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Re: Has anyone heard of Henry Turner, novelist?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 October 17 15:28 BST (UK) »
He may have done, in which case the chances of finding anything about him dwindle almost to zero  :(
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Re: Has anyone heard of Henry Turner, novelist?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 28 October 17 17:10 BST (UK) »
In the 1881 census Henry Turner is described as "Senior examiner in the Exchequer Dept and novelist"

Where was he in 1881?

All is not lost yet even if he did have a 'Pen' name  :-\

What about an email to the local archives for the area he lived in 1881 with all the details to try & find info. on him especially with his occ. as I think there might be something on him?

Annie

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"


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Re: Has anyone heard of Henry Turner, novelist?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 29 October 17 04:43 GMT (UK) »
For our looker reference:
1861: St Pancras, Middlesex
RG 9 / Piece 95 / Folio 108 / Pg5
Henry, age 31, b Salford, Lancs
Minnie, age 28, b Honley, Yorkshire
No children with them.

1867 Marriage:
St John, Notting Hill - his marriage to 17 yr old Jean Waddell Oswald:
Henry TURNER, 33, widower, Civil Service, of Mall Terrace
Father: William TURNER, Gentleman
Both Witness' were Oswalds.

1871 Marriage: to Catherine Wilson OSWALD took place in Mordington, Berwickshire, Scotland (where Catherine was born).
What were the details on that marriage as to his parents - did it name them as the pair you believe are his parents, William Turner and Mary Alsey

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Re: Has anyone heard of Henry Turner, novelist?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 29 October 17 09:05 GMT (UK) »
If he used his own name, British Library catalogue has
Renruth. A tale.
by Henry Turner  (Novelist)
London, 1877

Grace. A novel.
Henry Turner  (Novelist)
London, Edinburgh; Tinsley Brothers, 1879

I think Renruth was published by Samuel Tinsley, which may connect them
Though The Morning Post thought Grace was the author's first novel. It hated it, and gave it a terrible review! The heroine apparently lived in Kensington (as did your Henry Turner in 1881)

Renruth was not like by The Graphic!
Was it reprinted not long ago?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Renruth-Henry-Turner/dp/1151364355

Sorry if neither of these were written by the right Henry Turner!
John

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Re: Has anyone heard of Henry Turner, novelist?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 29 October 17 11:12 GMT (UK) »
Renruth was not like by The Graphic!
Was it reprinted not long ago?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Renruth-Henry-Turner/dp/1151364355

If you scroll to the bottom of the page on the link it has this...

"Product description
About the Author
Originally from Baltimore, award-winning independent filmmaker and journalist Henry Turner now lives in Southern California. Ask the Dark is his first novel. Visit his website at www.askthedark.com. --This text refers to an alternate Paperback edition."


Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Has anyone heard of Henry Turner, novelist?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 29 October 17 13:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Yes, I saw that. But an independent filmmaker now living in California didn't write a book in 1877. So I don't know what is going on there.
I don't think anyone knows who that novelist Henry Turner was. Maybe the book/books have some clues!
Does seem kind of unlikely that Renruth from 1877 would be reprinted, but who knows?
John

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Re: Has anyone heard of Henry Turner, novelist?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 29 October 17 14:07 GMT (UK) »
I vaguely remember a book of pen-names but it may have contained  only popular authors. Sorry, I can't remember the title. All I recall is that 1 writer wrote Westerns under about 10 pen-names.
Added. Wiki has a list but it's in alphabetical order of pen-name, arranged by 1st name.
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