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Offline Kath77

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DEAN family
« on: Saturday 28 October 17 21:29 BST (UK) »
My grandfather's uncle, aunt and cousins emigrated to New Zealand in the 1920s. They departed from Southampton on Sep 25th 1924 on the Remeura and arrived in Wellington. I'd love to know what happened to them after they arrived as I don't believe they returned to the UK.

Sidney William Dean (b.23 Aug 1869, an architect)
Nellie Dean (b.1872 nee Wilkinson)
Kathleen Peggy Dean (b.15 Jul 1909)
Joan Margery Dean (b.8 Jul 1911)

They also had an older daughter, Dorothy Mabel Dean, who had previously moved to New Zealand (1914) with her husband Lionel Edwin Austin Rolph (b.1892, a farmer), and I believe he lost his life in WW1.

Does anyone have a connection to these people? Or could anyone point me in the right direction please?

Many thanks,
Katherine  :)
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LUCK (Eastbourne)
NELSON (Cardiff)
TUSTIN (Cardiff; Oxfordshire)
NEWMAN (Yorkshire; Worcestershire)
BARNES (Barnsley, Yorks)
ROWLEY (Cardiff; Stourport, Worcestershire; Devon)

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Re: DEAN family
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 28 October 17 21:43 BST (UK) »
Sidney William Dean appears in the electoral rolls in the Lyttleton area, Christchurch from 1919 until 1949
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kyp/

He died:
1953/28460   Dean   Sidney William   84Y
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kyq/
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Re: DEAN family
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 October 17 21:48 BST (UK) »
Ah, thank you, yes that date / age does look like it could fit with his birthdate. I will have to investigate earlier emigration dates - as Nellie appears from 1919 too - perhaps they were back in 1924 for a visit...

Katherine  :)
COWLEY & PAINE (Brighton & Lewes, Sussex)
GENT (Brighton/Hove and Warrington/Grappenhall)
CROWTER (Brighton/Hove and parts of Hampshire)
DEAN (Eastbourne, Sussex; Barrow-Upon-Soar, Leicestershire & south London)
LUCK (Eastbourne)
NELSON (Cardiff)
TUSTIN (Cardiff; Oxfordshire)
NEWMAN (Yorkshire; Worcestershire)
BARNES (Barnsley, Yorks)
ROWLEY (Cardiff; Stourport, Worcestershire; Devon)

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...out of, through, and back from New Zealand to the ends of the Earth

FRYER - MITCHELL - DUKE - WHYTE - McDONALD - TAYLOR - CARPENTER - HARRIS - WILLIAMS - CUNNINGHAME - LUCAS - WHITE - BOTHAM - HOLDAWAY - EYLES - OLSEN - CHASE - TRAILL - BAGGS - HASKINS - EDWARDS - CHING - SHIELDS - POLLARD - HOGAN - SMITH - STANLEY - HALL - ROBERTS - LARKHAM

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Re: DEAN family
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 28 October 17 22:13 BST (UK) »
You can download his war file from the links at the bottom of this page:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kyr/
...out of, through, and back from New Zealand to the ends of the Earth

FRYER - MITCHELL - DUKE - WHYTE - McDONALD - TAYLOR - CARPENTER - HARRIS - WILLIAMS - CUNNINGHAME - LUCAS - WHITE - BOTHAM - HOLDAWAY - EYLES - OLSEN - CHASE - TRAILL - BAGGS - HASKINS - EDWARDS - CHING - SHIELDS - POLLARD - HOGAN - SMITH - STANLEY - HALL - ROBERTS - LARKHAM

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Re: DEAN family
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 28 October 17 22:17 BST (UK) »
A Dorothy Mabel Rolph married an Arthur Floyd Collins in 1927 (1927/6457)

There is a death entry that seems to match this Dorothy suggesting she was born 1894 though.  This is a long time between Dorothy and Kathleen if that is the case.  Were there other children?

1978/42942   Collins   Dorothy Mabel   9 July 1894
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FRYER - MITCHELL - DUKE - WHYTE - McDONALD - TAYLOR - CARPENTER - HARRIS - WILLIAMS - CUNNINGHAME - LUCAS - WHITE - BOTHAM - HOLDAWAY - EYLES - OLSEN - CHASE - TRAILL - BAGGS - HASKINS - EDWARDS - CHING - SHIELDS - POLLARD - HOGAN - SMITH - STANLEY - HALL - ROBERTS - LARKHAM

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Re: DEAN family
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 28 October 17 22:39 BST (UK) »
Fantastic - yes that is our Lionel. Such a sad story as they were married for such a short time. Lovely to see Dorothy mentioned!

I had another look on Ancestry and it seems that the Deans first travelled to NZ in 1914 with Dorothy and Lionel (there's also an incoming record in 1923, so I wonder what they came back for...) There was mass advertising for farmers to travel to NZ at the time, so I wonder if that sparked it.

And yes, Dorothy was born in 1894! The gap between the children always puzzled me. In the 1911 census Neliie says she's only had 3 children, but one has died and yesterday I found a baptism for Sidney Bryant Dean who died age 2 in 1909. That's still a 13 year age gap though.

I've had a look on the BMD website you suggested and found Nellie died in 1950.

Here's the updated timeline so far if you're interested :-) ... https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/115222903/person/410141254534/facts
COWLEY & PAINE (Brighton & Lewes, Sussex)
GENT (Brighton/Hove and Warrington/Grappenhall)
CROWTER (Brighton/Hove and parts of Hampshire)
DEAN (Eastbourne, Sussex; Barrow-Upon-Soar, Leicestershire & south London)
LUCK (Eastbourne)
NELSON (Cardiff)
TUSTIN (Cardiff; Oxfordshire)
NEWMAN (Yorkshire; Worcestershire)
BARNES (Barnsley, Yorks)
ROWLEY (Cardiff; Stourport, Worcestershire; Devon)

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Re: DEAN family
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 28 October 17 22:49 BST (UK) »
Just a few newspaper references to the family:

A birthday party
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kys/

Plunket dance
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kyt/

Fancy dress
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kyu/

Golf club dance
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kyv/

Sumner Beautfiying Association
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kyw/

There are more articles too but now you have the Paperspast link you might like to have a dig and delve yourself  :D

Looks like they were a social family?!
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FRYER - MITCHELL - DUKE - WHYTE - McDONALD - TAYLOR - CARPENTER - HARRIS - WILLIAMS - CUNNINGHAME - LUCAS - WHITE - BOTHAM - HOLDAWAY - EYLES - OLSEN - CHASE - TRAILL - BAGGS - HASKINS - EDWARDS - CHING - SHIELDS - POLLARD - HOGAN - SMITH - STANLEY - HALL - ROBERTS - LARKHAM

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Re: DEAN family
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 28 October 17 22:56 BST (UK) »
In Paperpast you will find advertisements for the Marine hotel in Sumner from October 1918 with the proprietor being S W Dean, so that may be their income?
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kyx/
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FRYER - MITCHELL - DUKE - WHYTE - McDONALD - TAYLOR - CARPENTER - HARRIS - WILLIAMS - CUNNINGHAME - LUCAS - WHITE - BOTHAM - HOLDAWAY - EYLES - OLSEN - CHASE - TRAILL - BAGGS - HASKINS - EDWARDS - CHING - SHIELDS - POLLARD - HOGAN - SMITH - STANLEY - HALL - ROBERTS - LARKHAM