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Offline julie Thorborn

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alfred thomas fowles
« on: Sunday 29 October 17 09:14 GMT (UK) »
Its a long shot but my ggrandfather ( in salford ) was listed as from shropshire (a shock as its where i live) his birth date was 1869. Could there be any records? Lancashire ones are great, just hoping they are as good in the shire,  tia
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Re: alfred thomas fowles
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 29 October 17 09:31 GMT (UK) »
Have you located any candidates on freebmd/ gro birth indexes?

https://www.familysearch.org/hr/search
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp


have you ordered/viewed the marriage to see what info  he gives re his father?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=781536.0
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Re: alfred thomas fowles
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 29 October 17 09:36 GMT (UK) »
I can't find a birth registration for him on the GRO site but I have found this baptism

Alfred Thomas Fowles bapt. 2 April 1871 Whitchurch, Shropshire. Parents Thomas and Sarah. Thomas was a Labourer and their abode is given as The Wyches.

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Re: alfred thomas fowles
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 29 October 17 09:40 GMT (UK) »
if the baptism is your man..

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFTH-YQH 1871 census candidate
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Re: alfred thomas fowles
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 29 October 17 10:16 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much, unbelievable he was not far from me in shropshire, he went to salford & i came here, funny old world.
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Re: alfred thomas fowles
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 29 October 17 11:37 GMT (UK) »
1851 Census Richard/Catharine have a Son Thomas born c 1850 Whitchurch

1891 Thomas/Sarah seem to be in Bradford, Yorkshire;
Thomas Fowles, 40, Head, Mar, Coachman, born Whitchurch, Shropshire
Sarah Fowles, 40
Thomas Frederick Fowles, 17
Ada Fowles, 16
Esther Hannah Fowles, 14
Florence Fowles   11***
Elizabeth Lyth, 33, Relative
Catherine Fowles, 4
Francis Richard Fowles, 10/12
John Henri, 22, Laodger
Jun Irvine, 26, Lodger

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FOWLES, FLORENCE, Mothrs mn WHITE****
GRO Reference: 1879  M Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE  Volume 09B  Page 26

Marriage Reg FreeBMD;
Sept 1870
Sarah Davies WHITE/Thomas FOWLES in same page

1881 the Family is under FOULDS;
Thomas Foulds   30
Sarah Foulds   30
Ada Foulds   6
Esther Foulds   4
Florence Foulds   2

1871 Thomas is down as Mar, Coachman, with the Joy Family in Bradford (as FOULDS)


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Re: alfred thomas fowles
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 29 October 17 11:45 GMT (UK) »
Familysearch.Org has the 1845 Marriage of Richard/Catherine in Cheshire (with Fathers names)
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Re: alfred thomas fowles
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 29 October 17 13:14 GMT (UK) »
Sorry for the delay Trish, im trying slowly to follow this, im not sure where Richard came from?
alfred thomas fowles was born 1869, so the marriage @ 1870 is a possible  ;)
please bear with me it takes time for me to process  :-\
but all appreciated
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Re: alfred thomas fowles
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 29 October 17 13:21 GMT (UK) »
Sorry for the delay Trish, im trying slowly to follow this, im not sure where Richard came from?

Richard is the grandfather in the 1871 census record that is likely to be your man.
Click on the familysearch link given earlier.

I wouldnt fret about the difference in an 1869/1871 birth year. He may have fibbed to be of full age at 1891 marriage. Or for the age difference between him and Caroline Fox to be more "respectable". Verify his father from the 1891 martiage and see where it goes.
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Brown 1800-> Woolwich (Kent)  Barnett 1800-> Woolwich (Kent)
Pannifer 1830-> Deptford (Kent)  Brierley in Staffordshire(Pre-1875)
Walters in Middlesex(Pre-1875)  Clift,Gould in Devon/Cornwall