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Re: Help clarifying an ancestor? I'm stuck and don't know how to move forward.
« Reply #54 on: Tuesday 31 October 17 18:10 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, thatís the one I saw Geoff. They had two daughters who both died as babies before 1871.

Thanks good re the marriage - Father John.

I couldnít see them later though.
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Re: Help clarifying an ancestor? I'm stuck and don't know how to move forward.
« Reply #55 on: Monday 06 November 17 13:04 GMT (UK) »
I donít want to complicate matters anymore but thought I would just post this to bear in mind when you start searching for Robertís father.
You know from Robertís marriage that his father was William.

I had a quick look for other Harrisons in West Derby district

1871 3802/80/25
Thomas Harrison 32yrs Carter b Wellingore

1871 3832/56/14
William Harrison 26 yrs Carter b Boothby.  *previously mentioned as yours

But there is also this man
1871 3802/79/24
He is transcribed as William Harbeson 28yrs b Wellington, Lancashire
But it should read Harrison and Wellingore -although it still shows as Lancashire. His wife though shows Lincolnshire and there is a marriage.
Here is the F S link
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBN3-DJJ

He is a Drayman so it is interesting that Adam Harrison mentioned earlier is a Waggoner and there are a couple of Williams who are a Carter and a Drayman - similar occupations.

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Hello everyone!

So, I received the birth cert for Robert Harrison.

I am now extremely confused....

So, I have that Robert Harrison was born on June 6th, 1889, in Everton North, Liverpool. His mother is listed as Mary Ann Harrison nee Jones.

His father, however, is listed as "Adam Harrison." Not William Adam or anything else, just Adam Harrison.

On his wedding cert, where he married Ethel Salter Phillips, which I know to be fact, Robert Harrison's father's name is William Harrison.

The William Harrison I found in the censuses always appeared to be William Adam Harrison as his full name... so I don't know if I should consider this accurate or false.

What do you all think about this?

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Re: Help clarifying an ancestor? I'm stuck and don't know how to move forward.
« Reply #56 on: Monday 06 November 17 13:25 GMT (UK) »
Hello again,

I think you need to get the 1872 marriage certificate for William and Mary Ann to see who is named as father to William and his occupation - sorry itís more expense. :-\

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Re: Help clarifying an ancestor? I'm stuck and don't know how to move forward.
« Reply #57 on: Monday 06 November 17 13:38 GMT (UK) »
At least you have now confirmed the June 6th birthdate which does tally with the 1939 register entry for 'your' Robert.
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Re: Help clarifying an ancestor? I'm stuck and don't know how to move forward.
« Reply #58 on: Monday 06 November 17 14:12 GMT (UK) »
At least you have now confirmed the June 6th birthdate which does tally with the 1939 register entry for 'your' Robert.
Isobel

This is true - at least I got that!

I'm trying to figure out how to confirm this is the right robert... the ages between the marriage cert and the birth cert tally up correctly... and I have found many copies of the marriage cert for William Harrison and Mary Ann Jones.... but the birth cert for the Robert I ordered has Adam Harrison as his father.

Does this sound like it could be relevant to the William Adam Harrison I found on the censuses?

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Re: Help clarifying an ancestor? I'm stuck and don't know how to move forward.
« Reply #59 on: Monday 06 November 17 14:26 GMT (UK) »
What about occupation and address for Robert and siblings?
Does the certificate tie in with any census information.

Where have you found the copies of the marriage certificate for William and Mary Ann?
I havenít seen one online. There are a couple of published trees but none have a copy of the certificate.

People with two names often interchange them and you have William using just one name and then both.
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Re: Help clarifying an ancestor? I'm stuck and don't know how to move forward.
« Reply #60 on: Monday 06 November 17 14:33 GMT (UK) »
Given that all other facts tie up and William who was married to Mary Ann Jones does seem to have the middle name Adam ( per 1911 census), I think that the balance of probabilities is that Robert is the son of the William Harrison and Mary Ann Jones who married in 1872.
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Re: Help clarifying an ancestor? I'm stuck and don't know how to move forward.
« Reply #61 on: Monday 06 November 17 16:47 GMT (UK) »
Think this is the marriage of Robert's sister Lucy Aug 20 1913 to Edwin Mason Jones in Everton- her father is showing as Adam Harrison, a carter.

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