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Offline Krazykat87

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Struggling with 4x great grandparents
« on: Monday 30 October 17 21:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi I am really stuggling to figure out which birth/baptism is correct for my 4x great grandparents James Wibberley and Sarah Dearnally.
I have found several records than could be them but because their marriage doesn’t show the fathers names I can’t decide which is the correct ones so I’m at a bit of an impass.

They married on the 27th March 1826 in the parish of kirkburton.
And in 1831 we’re living in hinchcliff mill when they had Samuel, my 3x ggrandad
I know James was born in Derbyshire but on census I see ‘shirley’ and ‘bradley’ which in turn means I have forums a few births/baptism that could be his.
Sarah has ‘kirkburton’ and ‘wooldale’.

James died in 1872 and Sarah in 1876 ( I think)

I would love to know how all you guys manage to confirm your findings when you get in this rut
Thanks in advance
Holmfirth, Austonley, Hoylandswaine etc: WIBBERLEY and FIELD
Marriages from above names to....CROOKS, WHITELEY, KAYE, DEARNALLY
Waterford, Ireland: POWER and SULLIVAN (Osullivan also)

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Re: Struggling with 4x great grandparents
« Reply #1 on: Monday 30 October 17 22:19 GMT (UK) »
List censuses in full,
List kids baptisms in full.

List candidate baptisms for james and sarah, and look for family forenames being passed down.
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Re: Struggling with 4x great grandparents
« Reply #2 on: Monday 30 October 17 22:49 GMT (UK) »
Ok I shall do that tomorrow when I pull out my file again. My battery is getting real low so best to watch for morning. They had a good few kids which I think I have most of them now anyway. I have the 41,51,61,71 census
Holmfirth, Austonley, Hoylandswaine etc: WIBBERLEY and FIELD
Marriages from above names to....CROOKS, WHITELEY, KAYE, DEARNALLY
Waterford, Ireland: POWER and SULLIVAN (Osullivan also)

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Re: Struggling with 4x great grandparents
« Reply #3 on: Monday 30 October 17 23:25 GMT (UK) »
To add to Pauline's list...

Do you have witnesses names to the marriage which may help with who the children were named after (names in the family)?

Take note of their ages on census' as often people give a date such as 'b 1820' when the age actually differs on census records from 1818 - 1824 or such like.

Annie






South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: Struggling with 4x great grandparents
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 31 October 17 11:58 GMT (UK) »
Ok this will slow as it’s a lot of typing while I’m getting ready for work
1841 census
All down as Yorkshire

James Wibberley 40
Sarah Wibberley 35
William Wibberley 15
George Wibberley 13
Lot Wibberley 12
Sam Wibberley 10
Ann Wibberley 7
Hannah Wibberley 5
Jane Wibberley 3
James Wibberley 8mo



1851 census

James Wibberley 49 derby, Bradley
Sarah Wibberley 45 York’s, kirkburton
George Wibberley 22 York’s, part of ???
Lot Wibberley 21   As above
Sam Wibberley 20. As above
Hannah Wibberley 14 as above
Jane Wibberley 12 as above
James Wibberley 10 as above
Alfred Wibberley 7 as above
Mary Wibberley 4 as above
Holmfirth, Austonley, Hoylandswaine etc: WIBBERLEY and FIELD
Marriages from above names to....CROOKS, WHITELEY, KAYE, DEARNALLY
Waterford, Ireland: POWER and SULLIVAN (Osullivan also)

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Re: Struggling with 4x great grandparents
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 31 October 17 12:03 GMT (UK) »
1861 census

James Wibberley 59 Derbyshire, Bradley
Sarah Wibberley 55 yorks, wooldale
Lott Wibberley 31 yorks, austonley
Hannah Wibberley 24 as above
Alfred Wibberley 17 as above
Mary Wibberley 14 as above


1871 census

James Wibberley 69 Derbyshire, Shirley
Sarah Wibberley 65 yorks, kirkburton
Lot Wibberley 42 yorks, austonley
Mary Wibberley 24 as above
Holmfirth, Austonley, Hoylandswaine etc: WIBBERLEY and FIELD
Marriages from above names to....CROOKS, WHITELEY, KAYE, DEARNALLY
Waterford, Ireland: POWER and SULLIVAN (Osullivan also)

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Re: Struggling with 4x great grandparents
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 31 October 17 12:09 GMT (UK) »
Marriage

Parish of kirkburton
James Wibberley of this parish and Sarah Dearnally of this parish were married in this church by banns with consent of ???? This 27 day of March 1826 by me ????

In the presence of John moorhouse and ??? Booth

It’s extremely faded but as a side note the marriage above is also done in the presence of those two witnesses and the one below has 1 of the witnesses in common
Holmfirth, Austonley, Hoylandswaine etc: WIBBERLEY and FIELD
Marriages from above names to....CROOKS, WHITELEY, KAYE, DEARNALLY
Waterford, Ireland: POWER and SULLIVAN (Osullivan also)

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Re: Struggling with 4x great grandparents
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 31 October 17 12:30 GMT (UK) »
Plenty of family names to choose from for potential parents.

Whichever name is not the one appearing on another marriage, could be (not necessarily) a relative possibly married to a sister so it's an avenue to look for a marriage with that name with the surname Wibberley or Dearnally?

Annie

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Struggling with 4x great grandparents
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 31 October 17 12:31 GMT (UK) »
Possible results.... (hopefully won’t miss any as some of the links are on the computer not my phone)

James wibberly baptism 30 dec 1801 Shirley Derbyshire, England
Son of George and Anne wibberly

Ahhh I can’t find the other two now that came up in the last searches.

Will have to check the computer tonight after work

Ok Sarah Dearnally
B 21may 1805
Baptism 6 jul 1805
Kirkburton, All Hallows’
Parents Jas and Charlotte Dearnally

Sarah Dearnally
B 1 Oct 1804
Bap 13 Oct 1804
Kirkburton, All Hallows’
Parents Geo and Lydia Dearnally
Holmfirth, Austonley, Hoylandswaine etc: WIBBERLEY and FIELD
Marriages from above names to....CROOKS, WHITELEY, KAYE, DEARNALLY
Waterford, Ireland: POWER and SULLIVAN (Osullivan also)