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Offline Jean Price

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John Masters, born Somerset
« on: Tuesday 31 October 17 07:32 GMT (UK) »
Hello All,

I have found John Masters in the 1851 Census living at 98 Monnow Street, Monmouth, with house keeper Ann Walley. He was unmarried, born in 1808 in Stanton Prior, and a wine merchant.
I am certain that these two married in 1858 at Merthyr Tidfyl.
Now that I am going to welcome him into the family I thought I would try to find him in 1841 and then in 1861.
So far no sighting.
Can any one else find him?
Thank you
Jean
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Re: John Masters, born Somerset
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 31 October 17 08:47 GMT (UK) »

I have found John Masters in the 1851 Census living at 98 Monnow Street, Monmouth, with house keeper Ann Walley. He was unmarried, born in 1808 Stanton Prior, and a wine merchant.

I am certain that these two married in 1858 at Merthyr Tidfyl.

Now that I am going to welcome him into the family I thought I would try to find him in 1841 and then in 1861.


There are quite a few John Masters born c 1808 on 1841 census who are married, I'm looking but  can't find one with an occupation of a wine merchant  ???

This is the marriage entry you are referring too

Jones    Mary        Merthyr. T.    11a   554    
Martin    William        Merthyr Tydfil    11a   554    
Masters    John        Merthyr T.,    11a   554   
Walley    Ann                Merthyr T            11a   554

It would help if he could be found on 1861 census confirming who he married

I see from the 1851 census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGTP-LP3
Ann WALLEY was born c 1814 Chelsea

and her Baptism shows father's name as Thomas, they can be found on 1841 census living in Newport Monmouthshire her father's occupation an Accountant, her sister Ellen was bp same place
on 19th Dec 1813

Ann Walley  Baptism 28 Jun 1812 St Luke, Chelsea, Kensington dau of Thomas Walley & Elizabeth

Edit ~

I don't know whether there's any connection here, three John Masters together
1841c https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7MW-X9Q

John age 70 occ Merchant
John age 40 occ Ind.
John age 15







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Re: John Masters, born Somerset
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 31 October 17 09:10 GMT (UK) »
Think Ive found them on 1861 census surname transcribed as MASTON living in Monmouth
RG9; Piece: 3987; Folio: 23; Page: 22

John age 52 Stanton Prior Somerset occ Spirit Merchant
Ann age 48 Chelsea
Sarah Roberts age 13 Ser. occ Home Ser

Not found them on the 1871 census - possibly death entries

Jun 1865 Monmouth 11a 27
John MASTERS

Jun 1869 Monmouth   11a   32
Ann Masters age 57   



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Re: John Masters, born Somerset
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 31 October 17 09:35 GMT (UK) »
Somerset OPC (wsom-opc.org.uk) has this:

Baptism, St James Stanton Prior, 15th Feb 1807
John Masters, son of George and Elizabeth Masters
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: John Masters, born Somerset
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 31 October 17 09:49 GMT (UK) »
Somerset OPC (wsom-opc.org.uk) has this:

Baptism, St James Stanton Prior, 15th Feb 1807
John Masters, son of George and Elizabeth Masters

Good find KGarrad  :)

there's also bp for
George 01 Jul 1808
Henry 22 Jun 1810
bp. same place, same parents names

Wondering if this might be George & John Masters together in Monmouth

High Street Monmouthshire
George Masters 33 occ Wine Merchant not born in this county
Eliza 30
George 6
Catharine 4
John 2
Fanny 1 month
John MASTERS 30 shopman not born in this county
1841 HO107; Piece: 751; St Woollos; Monmouthshire; ED: 2; Folio: 29; Page: 1

added here's George on  1851 HO107; Piece: 2452; Folio: 478; Page: 2
High Street Monmouth
George Masters 42 Somerset occ Wine & Spirit Merchant
Elizth Ann 47, George 15, Catharine 13, John 11, Ellen 8, Fanny 2
plus servants


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Re: John Masters, born Somerset
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 31 October 17 20:22 GMT (UK) »
Good morning Ladyhawk and KGarrad,

You have well and truly solved the puzzle for me. Not only do I have a new person in the family, but his family as well.

Thank you and regards
Jean
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Re: John Masters, born Somerset
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 31 October 17 20:33 GMT (UK) »
Good morning Ladyhawk and KGarrad,

You have well and truly solved the puzzle for me. Not only do I have a new person in the family, but his family as well.

Good Evening Jean - glad to be of help  :)


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Re: John Masters, born Somerset
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 01 November 17 06:13 GMT (UK) »
I have now realised that I also have to thank you for putting in the full transcript.
For example, 98 Monnow Street. I can Google that address and see where my family lived - and as I am in New Zealand, that is the only way I am ever going to see these places.
I have FamilySearch and they do not put in the finer details.
Regards
Jean
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Re: John Masters, born Somerset
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 01 November 17 09:48 GMT (UK) »
Hello Jean

I didn't put an address for John on the 1861 census as there wasn't one next to his name 
there is a street name at the top of the page which was very faint but it does look to read
Monnow St., on checking other pages from that census ref. it does show that name
more clearly  :)