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John Williams b abt 1839 in Monkton, Pembrokeshire
« on: Wednesday 01 November 17 12:59 GMT (UK) »
I have 4 possible matches coming up on GRO, but they are all listed as PEMBROKE UNION.

WILLIAMS, JOHN         JOHN  GRO Reference: 1839  M Quarter in PEMBROKE UNION  Volume 26  Page 33 
WILLIAMS, JOHN         LEWIS GRO Reference: 1839  M Quarter in PEMBROKE UNION  Volume 26  Page 642  Order 
WILLIAMS, JOHN      -           GRO Reference: 1839  S Quarter in PEMBROKE UNION  Volume 26  Page 618  Order 
WILLIAMS, JOHN  PICTON     GRO Reference: 1839  J Quarter in PEMBROKE UNION  Volume 26  Page 643 


Has anyone researched John and might have evidence of which one was born in Monkton ? Alternatively if anyone can rule out one of the possibles, means I will have to order fewer PDF's

thanks in advance, Geoff

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Re: John Williams b abt 1839 in Monkton, Pembrokeshire
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 01 November 17 13:04 GMT (UK) »
Have you found him on census with his parents  :-\
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Re: John Williams b abt 1839 in Monkton, Pembrokeshire
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 01 November 17 13:08 GMT (UK) »
Any idea who he married, or who his father was?

2 bapts on familysearch with possible parents, to try narrow...

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: John Williams b abt 1839 in Monkton, Pembrokeshire
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 01 November 17 13:23 GMT (UK) »
WILLIAMS, JOHN   Mmn    JOHN     
GRO Reference: 1839  M Quarter in PEMBROKE UNION  Volume 26  Page 33   Order

WILLIAMS, JOHN    Mmn   LEWIS     
GRO Reference: 1839  M Quarter in PEMBROKE UNION  Volume 26  Page 642   

WILLIAMS, JOHN       -  no mmn listed likely illegitimate
GRO Reference: 1839  S Quarter in PEMBROKE UNION  Volume 26  Page 618   

WILLIAMS, JOHN  PICTON mmn PICTON   
GRO Reference: 1839  J Quarter in PEMBROKE UNION  Volume 26  Page 643   

These are the listings just for 1839 with mmn listed

Added: see you have now included Mmn
 
       
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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: John Williams b abt 1839 in Monkton, Pembrokeshire
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 01 November 17 13:36 GMT (UK) »
earliest census I have him on is 1871 and he's married/ head of house.
His marriage cert, to Martha Hill, states father is also John.

There's just so many John Williams to choose from, so I suspect the first entry, I should check a few years either side as well to eliminate date mis-matches

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Re: John Williams b abt 1839 in Monkton, Pembrokeshire
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 01 November 17 13:53 GMT (UK) »
Only 2 in Monkton area coming up with birth year 1839 +/- 2 yrs. one has a father named Thomas this is the other.

1841- Priory Mains, Monkton, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales
John   Williams   Male   30 Ag lab      Pembrokeshire, Wales   
Sarah   Williams   Female   30   Pembrokeshire, Wales   
Ann   Williams   Female   4   Pembrokeshire, Wales   
John   Williams   Male   2   Pembrokeshire, Wales   
Robert   Williams   Male   0   Pembrokeshire, Wales   
 
Bapt on Familysearch parents John/Sarah original gives address Priory Mains

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X1RQ-7GW

Robert has mmn John, bapt on familysearch same area.

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: John Williams b abt 1839 in Monkton, Pembrokeshire
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 01 November 17 14:05 GMT (UK) »
Possible marriage

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCBY-VDY original states Williams. Says he is of Monkton, St Nicholas. Sarah of Amroth

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: John Williams b abt 1839 in Monkton, Pembrokeshire
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 01 November 17 14:22 GMT (UK) »
Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: John Williams b abt 1839 in Monkton, Pembrokeshire
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 01 November 17 15:08 GMT (UK) »
1861 - John, Sarah and daughter Ann still in Carew area.
1871 - Just John Snr, & Sarah same area Carew Mountain.
1881- Sarah, Widowed, pauper, Carew Mountain.

1861 - for John a good possible is in St Twynnells area about 4 miles from Castlemartin. He is a servant on marriage cert, servant with this family as a Carter, age fits. Birthplace given is just Pembroke.

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall