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Was WW2 Inevitable?
« on: Wednesday 01 November 17 13:03 GMT (UK) »

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Re: Was WW2 Inevitable?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 01 November 17 15:14 GMT (UK) »
I would say the second world war followed inevitably from the first, and the first followed inevitably from the Franco-Prussian war of 1870.  So if you have a time machine, go back to that year and persuade the French that declaring war on Prussia is very ill-advised (especially if, having done so, you find yourself on the losing side).
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Re: Was WW2 Inevitable?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 01 November 17 15:18 GMT (UK) »
Inevitable yes, the only uncertainty was who was going to start it, the Fascists or the Communists.
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Re: Was WW2 Inevitable?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 01 November 17 16:18 GMT (UK) »
Had the loosing side in WW2 known what I know now they would have not stated the War.

This is the three Elements Russia, the United States and the rest comprising of  Great Britain, Australia, Australia, Canada, South Africa, India, France, etc, etc. going against Germany, Italy and Japan there was only one outcome. 

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Re: Was WW2 Inevitable?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 01 November 17 16:44 GMT (UK) »
Many German military personnel believed that, as Germany did not surrender on 11 Novmber 1918, the country was not defeated. Germany signed an armistice; "a cessation of hostilities as a prelude to peace negotiations" not an instrument of surrender. The peace treaty was signed at Versailles in 1919. Unconditional surrender should have been the watch-words!

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Re: Was WW2 Inevitable?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 01 November 17 16:52 GMT (UK) »
Had the loosing side in WW2 known what I know now they would have not stated the War.

This is the three Elements Russia, the United States and the rest comprising of  Great Britain, Australia, Australia, Canada, South Africa, India, France, etc, etc. going against Germany, Italy and Japan there was only one outcome.

The USA didn't come into the war until more than 3 years after it started!
They entered the war with Operation Torch, 8 November 1942.

So, make that 2.5 elements ;D
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Re: Was WW2 Inevitable?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 01 November 17 17:38 GMT (UK) »
I thought it was Pearl Harbour that brought USA into the mix - so December 1941  :-\ :-\

But then what would I know, a mere female  :-* :-*

Added:  and I was only born in 1942  :o
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Re: Was WW2 Inevitable?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 01 November 17 17:53 GMT (UK) »
Yes, it was inevitable, but not quite for the reasons offered here.

It required Adolf Hitler and the Japanese. If it wasn't for Hitler, the Weimar Republic would never have had another go. The German people had no wish for war, only the early victories in the West gave them any peace of mind.

I should mention the Kaiser, favourite grandson of Queen Victoria. There are two video's on You Tube of him speaking in the 1920's or 1930's. It was horrendous, only an arms length away or less from Adolf Hitler. When he became Emperor he commanded, same course but full speed ahead.

Hitlers blunders. Being a racist he highly approved of Britain retaining it's Empire of stability and order. We didn't play ball. Then, invasion was impossible. Battle of Britain or not, the Royal Navy would have destroyed any invasion force. The German Navy (Kriegsmarine) would have deployed only a line of U Boats either end of the Channel. So, on to Russia. In June 1941 there were pitifully few people in the World who would have given the Soviet Union a cat in hells chance of surviving the German onslaught. Subsequent events only underlined the estimation, the huge encirclement battles and by the beginning of 1942, the Red Army was quite depleted. But so was the German Army.

The Soviet Union was a quite different kettle of fish to the Czarist Army of 1918 and before. Industrial output was such that the SU would have won the War against Germany on it's own.

Japan's attack on Pearl Harbour awoke a sleeping giant and they suffered the consequences. They destroyed the European Empires in the East.

Only the United States and the Soviet Union emerged as great powers after World war II.