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John Hoy c.1821-1904 - wife & children?
« on: Wednesday 01 November 17 15:30 GMT (UK) »
Stuck again...John Hoy of Colne Engaine appears in census records 1841-1901 inc. I wonder if anybody can confirm his wife's maiden name, please? Some folk suggest Stock & others Wilkinson. There appear to be 3 children: George c.1843, Ellen c.1852 & James c.1857 all born Colne Engaine as are their parents according to census returns. I can find a marriage record for Hoy/Wilkinson, q4 1839 Halstead but not a single suitable/fitting birth record for any of those children. Ellen appears to be the 2nd wife of Edward Hardy, Miller, of Toppesfield and appears to be childless by him. George may have married an Emma Hayward and James, well I'm still looking for him beyond 1871. I'd appreciate any info but it's a bit of a distant branch arrived at through William Hardy of Toppesfield...4 wives and no apparent children...yet another story!

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Re: John Hoy c.1821-1904 - wife & children?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 01 November 17 15:49 GMT (UK) »
Births of children George, Ellen and James are all showing in the groindexes in Halstead, Essex but surname showing as Hoye not Hoy. Mother's maiden name is given in each case as Wilkinson.

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Re: John Hoy c.1821-1904 - wife & children?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 01 November 17 16:49 GMT (UK) »
John Hoy and Eliza Wilkinson, both single and OTP were married at St Andrews, Colne Engaine on 13 November 1839


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Re: John Hoy c.1821-1904 - wife & children?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 01 November 17 16:52 GMT (UK) »
An Eliza Wilkinson, daughter of Elias and Mary Wilkinson was baptised in Colne Engaine on 24 June 1821, father's occupation recorded as a labourer.

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Re: John Hoy c.1821-1904 - wife & children?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 01 November 17 17:02 GMT (UK) »
There are no Colne Engaine baptisms for the Hoy children

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Re: John Hoy c.1821-1904 - wife & children?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 February 18 07:00 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for all the hints and suggestions - all towards reducing loose ends - more work in progress...

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Re: John Hoy c.1821-1904 - wife & children?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 February 18 13:01 GMT (UK) »
I was hoping Emma Chaplin, Neice and visitor with the Hoys may have been related to John Hoy.

But she is the Daug of William/Lucy Chaplin;;
(1841 Census)

Marriage;
14 October 1831, Colne Engaine, Essex
William CHAPLIN to Lucy WILKINSON

LUCY Wilkinson christened 20 March 1814 Earls Colne to Elias/Mary
Marriage;
9 November 1813, Earls Colne, Essex, Elias to Mary EVERETT

They are east to find on 1841/1861 Census.

In case you dont have the 1841 Census;
John HAY   20 Ag Lab
Eliza Hay   20


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Re: John Hoy c.1821-1904 - wife & children?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 13 February 18 13:54 GMT (UK) »
James is in London in 1891;

James Woy. 34, Head, Mar, born Colne Engaine, Essex
Susan Woy, 36
Laura Woy, 11
Daisy Woy, 7
Sidney Woy. 5

1881 in Essex;
James Hoy   24
Susan Hoy   26
Laura E. Hoy, Younger Than 1

Wife Susan NORFOLK married 1878

1901 back in Essex;
James Hoy   44
Susan Hoy   46
Sydney J Hoy 15
Daisy M Hoy 17
Florence Hoy 9
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Re: John Hoy c.1821-1904 - wife & children?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 13 February 18 14:09 GMT (UK) »
Although this is a distant line for you squawki11 I am going to add some info Trees have not picked up on;;

Daniel HOY married Sarah GOODWILL 18 Nov 1812 Halstead.
She was a Spinster and Daniel a Widower*
Witnesses, Benjamin Goodwill and Jno Good
Register note; Banns. Both used mark. [ Suspect an error, Goodwin probably)

His previous Wife was likely ANN as a Daniel was baptised to them 16 Apr 1811 Halstead

A Hannah H[AO]Y age 18 married 18 Aug 1839 Halstead, Father Danniel H[AO]YE, Labourer
Brides abode Coln-Engain

I can find only 2 Sons to Daniel/Sarah Baptised Halstead;
JAMES 12 Apr 1814
ISAAC 16 Apr 1816 abode Earl's Colne
Daniels Occp Husbandman

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