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Young deaths - Cragg - Liverpool
« on: Thursday 02 November 17 13:03 GMT (UK) »
On the 1911 census for
George Cragg b1851 Liverpool
Margaret Cragg b1847 Dublin

living at 4 Moss yard Lancaster

It states they had 10 children born alive but only 2 living!

on previous census it shows them to have -
Robert Cragg 1878 Liverpool
Agnes Cragg  1882 Liverpool
George Cragg 1881 Liverpool

Robert must die as they have George with them in 1911 and Agnes is alive and married with her own family.

So I am missing 7 births and deaths that all must have fallen between census years.

How do I find them?

Thanks Ju
Armitage, Slaithwaite, huddersfield.
Calvert, Thornton, Bradford.
Pickles, Thornton, Bradford.
Rawlings, Somerset.
Clay, Slaithwaite, Huddersfield.
Clayton, Preston, Lanc's
Croston, Preston, Lanc's
Crossley, Preston, Lanc's
Jackson, Preston, Lanc's
Woods poss Preston
Moses, Monmouthshire
Foster, Thornton, Bradford.
gallop, Chew Stoke, Somerset
Shaw, Halifax
Holdsworth, Bingley/Keighley

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Re: Young deaths - Cragg - Liverpool
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 November 17 13:04 GMT (UK) »
Have you tried using the GRO index which gives mothers maiden names for the births
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

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Re: Young deaths - Cragg - Liverpool
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 November 17 13:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

No, I didn't know that it was searchable, thanks, I'll have a look  :)

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Armitage, Slaithwaite, huddersfield.
Calvert, Thornton, Bradford.
Pickles, Thornton, Bradford.
Rawlings, Somerset.
Clay, Slaithwaite, Huddersfield.
Clayton, Preston, Lanc's
Croston, Preston, Lanc's
Crossley, Preston, Lanc's
Jackson, Preston, Lanc's
Woods poss Preston
Moses, Monmouthshire
Foster, Thornton, Bradford.
gallop, Chew Stoke, Somerset
Shaw, Halifax
Holdsworth, Bingley/Keighley

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Re: Young deaths - Cragg - Liverpool
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 November 17 13:11 GMT (UK) »
Looks as if the mother's maiden name is Cross

CRAGG, ROBERT       CROSS     
GRO Reference: 1878  J Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 581

CRAGG, GEORGE  HENRY     CROSS     
GRO Reference: 1881  J Quarter in WEST DERBY  Volume 08B  Page 546
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Re: Young deaths - Cragg - Liverpool
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 02 November 17 13:25 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, yes I meant to put that, it is indeed Cross.

I have Found a -
Henry 1855
Alexander 1888
George 1892
All born West Derby which fits.
I need to look for their deaths now.
Still missing 4 kids though

Ju
Armitage, Slaithwaite, huddersfield.
Calvert, Thornton, Bradford.
Pickles, Thornton, Bradford.
Rawlings, Somerset.
Clay, Slaithwaite, Huddersfield.
Clayton, Preston, Lanc's
Croston, Preston, Lanc's
Crossley, Preston, Lanc's
Jackson, Preston, Lanc's
Woods poss Preston
Moses, Monmouthshire
Foster, Thornton, Bradford.
gallop, Chew Stoke, Somerset
Shaw, Halifax
Holdsworth, Bingley/Keighley

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Re: Young deaths - Cragg - Liverpool
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 02 November 17 13:32 GMT (UK) »
Alexander looks promising b1880 West Derby mother Cross as their is a death for him 1880 aged 0

Not found deaths for the others though.

ju
Armitage, Slaithwaite, huddersfield.
Calvert, Thornton, Bradford.
Pickles, Thornton, Bradford.
Rawlings, Somerset.
Clay, Slaithwaite, Huddersfield.
Clayton, Preston, Lanc's
Croston, Preston, Lanc's
Crossley, Preston, Lanc's
Jackson, Preston, Lanc's
Woods poss Preston
Moses, Monmouthshire
Foster, Thornton, Bradford.
gallop, Chew Stoke, Somerset
Shaw, Halifax
Holdsworth, Bingley/Keighley

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Re: Young deaths - Cragg - Liverpool
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 02 November 17 16:26 GMT (UK) »
It is possible that, although the 1911 asks for children born alive, she may have given birth to still born children, but still (naturally) have counted that as giving birth. However, their birth and deaths would not be recorded on the GRO register.
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Re: Young deaths - Cragg - Liverpool
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 02 November 17 16:30 GMT (UK) »
Yes that's a good point, though 8 is a pretty high number.
I have still only found one potential birth and death and that is Alexander who fits and Margarets dad was called alexander too.
I can't find any more as yet.


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Armitage, Slaithwaite, huddersfield.
Calvert, Thornton, Bradford.
Pickles, Thornton, Bradford.
Rawlings, Somerset.
Clay, Slaithwaite, Huddersfield.
Clayton, Preston, Lanc's
Croston, Preston, Lanc's
Crossley, Preston, Lanc's
Jackson, Preston, Lanc's
Woods poss Preston
Moses, Monmouthshire
Foster, Thornton, Bradford.
gallop, Chew Stoke, Somerset
Shaw, Halifax
Holdsworth, Bingley/Keighley

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Re: Young deaths - Cragg - Liverpool
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 02 November 17 17:16 GMT (UK) »
I had a look as well and could only find the ones you have. When did they marry as that may give a starting point?
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