Bertha Haack and family in Vic and West Australia !!

[annette ellen]

I am hoping that someone may be able to help me find some information regarding Bertha Haack whom lived on Bendigo Vic and had two children while their, then sometime do not know when , went to West Australia and had 2 more sons One named William, second named Harry.
She may have married a Patrick Nolan as it is said that she had an association with him.
I have had no luck in my searches , so I am hoping that someone out there in WA or Vic can be of help to me.
Thanking you in advance, Regards Annette Ellen 

[q98]

Extracted from Metropolitan Cemeteries Board, WA, which cover only the Perth metro area.
A Bertha NOLAN died at Perth on 3rd November 1899, aged 29 years (born circa 1870), buried Karrakatta Cemetery, Wesleyan Denomination, Grave AA0073.
A Patrick NOLAN died at West Swan on 6th September 1960, aged 85 years, (born circa 1875), buried Guildford, Roman Catholic Denomination, Grave B0045. Could this be your Patrick Nolan?

There are no William or Harold (Harry) NOLAN candidates recorded which could link with Bertha above. The closest was a Harold born in 1902; three years after Bertha died.

An Arthur Maurice HAACK died in 1970, aged 71 years and two more HAACKs were female. No William or Harold (Harry) HAACKs located. Of course, they may have deceased outside Perth Metro area.

Have you considered German immigration records; HAACK appears to be a Germanic surname.
Good luck.

[Dundee]

A birth certifiicate for any one of her children should tell you where she was born.

Her son Ernest was KIA in 1917 and his service record names both James and Fredrick (F. M. C.?) HAACK of WA as uncles.  This may be the same person who was using both names.

http://soda.naa.gov.au/record/8002401/1

Electoral rolls show F.M.C. as Fritzmoretz Charles.  His marriage in WA shows him as Fritz Moritz Charles.

Debra 

[Dundee]

The service record for Bertha's son William names a W.H. HAACK of Victoria as another uncle.

http://soda.naa.gov.au/record/8002542/1

This is probably his death:

Wm Hy HAACK
Age: 80
Death Place:    Toora, Victoria
Father:    Fredk HAACK
Mother:    Fredra S WAGNER
Registration Year:    1946
# 21787

Debra 

[jomcd967]

Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985
Name:   Harry Nolan
Birth Year:   abt 1897
Age:   5 Months
Father's name: Patrick
Mothers name: Bertha Haack
Registration year:1898
Registration place: Western Australia

Jo 

[q98]

From his Attestation Paper, Ernest was 24 Years 2 months old at enlistment; ie. his DOB would have been April 1892 in Bendigo, Victoria. Further, his NOK was recorded as "Uncle, James HAACK, The Meadows, Wickepin". Interestingly, an Elizabeth Mary HAACK of Wickepin died 8 December 1941, age 69 years. Could this be James' wife? Elizabeth Mary HAACK was buried in Karrakatta Cemetery, Anglican area, Grave LD0568. Further, the name "Edith Marion WALKER" appears linked with the grave, purchaser perhaps? If so, most likely James pre-deceased Elizabeth and Edith was a daughter perhaps??

[q98]

Another link to Wickepin:
Wickepin Cemetery Burials:
HAACK, James, 71 years, 22 Apr 36, C of E, Grave No. 1.22
HAACK, William Henry, 36 years, 31 Jul 37, Husband of Dorothy May, Father of Nes & Bill, Presbyterian, Grave No. 1.6
HAACK, Dorothy May, 80 years, 18 Jun 81, Wife of William, Mother of Nes & Bill, Presbyterian, Grave No. 1.8

"Nes" - possible diminutive of Agnes, Annis, Inez, Aggie, Annice, Nan, Nancy.

[jomcd967]

Ludwig Haack and Fredrica Sophia Wagner had the following children registered in Victoria:
James, 1864, Pyalong
Elizabeth, 1872, Pyalong (died 1872)
Charles, 1872, Pyalong
Ludwig 1878, Pyalong

Ludwig died intestate in 1898, his probate by wis widow was in 1907 and named the following living children:
Augustus of White Cliffs NSW
Fritz of WA
William Henry of Toora
Mary Banford of 198 Park Street Sth Melbourne
Charles of Toora
Ludwig Ernest of WA

So obviously some children either not registered of badly mis transcribed.

Fredrica Sophia died 1918 in Toora.

Jo 

[sparrett]

Some registered births for HAACK, who appear to be the right family with complete index information.

HAACK, James
Parents Ludwig and WAGNER, Fredreck
At Pyal
1864/17481

HAAK, William
Parents Luwick and WAGNER Fredrick
At Palong
1866/4290

HAACK, Charles
Parents Ludwig and WAGNER Fredrica
At Pyal
1872/4789

HACK, Elizabeth
Parents Ludwig and WAGNER Fredrica
At Pyal
1872/4790

HAACK, Ludwig
Parents Ludwig and WAGNER Fredrica
At Pyal
1878/4604

Sue