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Offline Eilleen

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Re: I am well and truly stuck, Edith Cree.
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 05 November 17 11:27 GMT (UK) »
flipping heck, its like four jigsaw's all muddled up .

look at this

in 1939.  Lois Cree ,  birth   10 Dec 1870    Incapacitated   Widowed    aged 69.
is living with Mr and Mrs Carrington , mrs Carrington was Grace Cree born 1914
Mothers name Baggaley .

I am defiantly losing the plot  ??? ???  its like musical chairs with people ,
all stand up and move about  , land were ever you wish  ;D ;D
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Re: I am well and truly stuck, Edith Cree.
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 05 November 17 15:38 GMT (UK) »
At least 4 jigsaws Eilleen  ;D

As an aside I think Richard Baggaley and Fanny Johnson marriage Jun 1890 could be the parents of Millicent and Lois Johannah. 

In 1901 Richard is a widower with son Albert 11 and Lois 7. 
As we know Milly was with Walter and Lois Penson as a daughter in 1901.   

There's a Fanny death in Sep 1898 age 30 could be her.
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Re: I am well and truly stuck, Edith Cree.
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 05 November 17 17:14 GMT (UK) »
Once again    A massive thank you for all your help  :-*
EXTON, from Rutland, Stamford, Boston, Lincoln. LANES, from Coleby,to Bracebridge Lincoln.WAKEFIELD,PROUDMAN Cheshire and  Stafford.
PINDAR, MOORE, ,CHAMBERS mostly from Lincolnshire.
LAING from Elgin ,Scotland.
 HADDELSEY from Caistor,and Grimsby Lincolnshire.                   
 Parfitt, Le Gros ,Le Sueur, from Jersey.
Martin, from Doncaster  to whelyn garden city, London.
BINT, Worchester, in Australian mint.

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Re: I am well and truly stuck, Edith Cree.
« Reply #39 on: Sunday 05 November 17 17:54 GMT (UK) »
Richard is Lois' brother  (they're together on 1881 - Lois transcribed as Louis by ancestry)

wondering if there's any connection between Fanny Johnson and Sarah Ann?

Couple of options for Fanny Johnson, but I think she is the one who is a servant in 1881 and with uncle and aunt Robert and Mary Whiteley in 1871 (see Millicent's middle name). Mary Whiteley's maiden name was Taylor - there's a Fanny Johnson b Newark 1868, mmn Taylor

Interestingly there's this
JOHNSON, SARAH  ANN      mmn TAYLOR
Q4 1863  NEWARK  Volume 07B  Page 293

So potentially, Robert Baggaley and Walter Cree/Penson marry sisters. Both are widowed with young children to care for within a couple of  years of each other. Walter then marries his first wife's brother in law's sister and they take on their mutual niece Millicent, so supporting Robert

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Re: I am well and truly stuck, Edith Cree.
« Reply #40 on: Monday 06 November 17 10:38 GMT (UK) »
Suggestion for Milly - brace yourselves -

Mar 1897 Newark

Millicent Whiteley Baggaley

Mothers maiden name Johnson

Baptism Newark, St Leonard
9 feb 1897 Millicent Whiteley dau of Richard & Fanny Baggaly abode 2 Alliance Buildings father a foundryman.
13 Oct 1893 Lois Johanna dau of Richard & Fanny Baggaley abode 21 George  St father a labourer.
Newark Christ Church
16 Nov 1890 Albert Victor son of Richard & Fanny Baggaley abode 2 Lenton terrace father a foundryman.

Marriage Newark, St Leonard
27 Apr 1900 Walter Cree and Lois Baggaley
Baptisms Newark, St Mary Mag.
8 Apr 1866 Sarah Ann dau of George & Sarah Johnson abode Chester Place father a labourer.
23 Feb 1868 Fanny dau George Edward & Sarah Johnson abode Chester Place, Cross Lane father a railway porter.
There is also a Mary baptised 1866, Harriet in 1870
Marriage Newark St Mary Mag.
17 Nov 1861 George Edward Johnson & Sarah Taylor

Marriage Newark Christ Church
27 Apr 1890 Richard Baggaley and Fanny Johnson

Sorry if I have duplicated anything.
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Re: I am well and truly stuck, Edith Cree.
« Reply #41 on: Monday 06 November 17 18:52 GMT (UK) »

Sorry if I have duplicated anything.


Not at all - all supporting evidence welcome. DO yuo have anything further on the marriages to show whether Fanny & Sarah Taylor are sisters, e.g. father's name, witnesses, addresses?

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Re: I am well and truly stuck, Edith Cree.
« Reply #42 on: Monday 06 November 17 19:57 GMT (UK) »
If you go onto freereg Fanny Johnson's marriage is there with her fathers name George.
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/58184e90e93790eb7f8e5596?search_id=5a0172e9f4040ba914dcfeba&ucf=false

Sarah Ann appears to be a sister to Fanny, Sarah Taylor, who married George Edward Johnson, is their mother.
Baptisms Newark, St Mary Mag.
8 Apr 1866 Sarah Ann dau of George & Sarah Johnson abode Chester Place father a labourer.
23 Feb 1868 Fanny dau George Edward & Sarah Johnson abode Chester Place, Cross Lane father a railway porter.
AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley. Beardall. Mabbott.