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Charles Matthews born 1856 in Gloucestershire lived in Cape Town SA
« on: Saturday 04 November 17 14:30 GMT (UK) »
Dear All I wonder if anyone can help me find out about a Charles Matthews born August 15 August in Henbury Gloucestershire England. He was married to Emily Unknown a South African. They had two daughters Emma born  c1882 and Elizabeth born c1887. Charles built up an Hotel Trade in Cape Town. He certainly travelled to NZ to see his brother Edwin and was in SA in 1917. One or both of his daughters is said to have died on May 24 at Sea Point Cape Town.

I am travelling to Cape Town later this month, so it would be great to have any information to follow up. Thanks a lot Janet Matthews
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Re: Charles Matthews born 1856 in Gloucestershire lived in Cape Town SA
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 November 17 14:52 GMT (UK) »
I take it that is your tree on line, so you are only looking for SA information?

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Re: Charles Matthews born 1856 in Gloucestershire lived in Cape Town SA
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 November 17 15:08 GMT (UK) »
All I know is his early life in the U.K. and what family have told me. We know very little about his life in SA. Janet
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Re: Charles Matthews born 1856 in Gloucestershire lived in Cape Town SA
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 04 November 17 15:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jaelma

Did you look at findmypast for the passenger lists (UK - South Africa and back / South Africa - New Zealand and back)?
Did you look at familysearch for BMD in South Africa or passenger lists (especially New Zealand)?
Did you look at the links for websites/databases in South Africa in the subforum for emigration to South Africa here on rootschat?
Did you look at the newspapers of New Zealand https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/

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Re: Charles Matthews born 1856 in Gloucestershire lived in Cape Town SA
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 04 November 17 15:33 GMT (UK) »
Dear Svenja, I have tried some of these in the past, but will check all again. Thanks Janet
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Re: Charles Matthews born 1856 in Gloucestershire lived in Cape Town SA
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 04 November 17 15:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jaelma

THURSDAY 27th JULY 1882
BIRTH

MATTHEWS - On 25th July 1882 a Daughter to the wife of C MATTHEWS at Cape Town

https://www.eggsa.org/newspapers/index.php/cape-times/1181-cape-times-1882-3-july-september

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Re: Charles Matthews born 1856 in Gloucestershire lived in Cape Town SA
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 November 17 16:22 GMT (UK) »
Dear Svenja, That is brilliant information. Haven't found anything on Family Search or Find My Past. Having difficulty with dealing with the Emigration records on Rootschat but will persevere. Thanks again Janet
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Re: Charles Matthews born 1856 in Gloucestershire lived in Cape Town SA
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 November 17 18:51 GMT (UK) »
This looks like it might be a reference to Charles and his daughter Emma:
http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=531169

Charles Matthews, J.P. born at Gloucestershire, England, 15 August 1855, died at Sea Point, 14 August 1923
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Emma Br???, nee Matthews, born 25 July 1882, died 26 June 1928

I think this might be daughter Emma/Emily, she was divorced from a Mr Brunt:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2QM-F82M

http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300dl
 Search here in "All Archives Repositories and National Registers of non-public records"
Put Matthews and Brunt in two different search boxes, you should find a reference for divorce between Emily Brunt, born Matthews, and Edmund Ludwig Christian Brunt, in 1918.

There is also another reference in 1939 to a woman who may be Emily Matthews/Brunt's daughter.

I think this might be Elizabeth's burial, married to Henry Christie Flockhart; the date of birth looks to me like 1886 and the date of death is May 24 which matches your earlier suggestion of one of his daughters having that death date:
http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=3406896

http://www.identitynumber.org/marriage-lookup-surname-results1.php?surname=MATTHEWS
 - this website

Emily Matthews and Edmund Brunt, 1904:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01l04/
Elizabeth Matthews and Henry Christie Flockhart, 1913:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01l03/
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Re: Charles Matthews born 1856 in Gloucestershire lived in Cape Town SA
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 04 November 17 20:37 GMT (UK) »
Dear Jorose, I am truly thankful and utterly amazed at what you have found out. If I may I will reply in detail tomorrow. This is all too much to take in this evening. So many thanks for all you have done for me. When I come to South Africa from the U.K. later this month I shall visit my grandfather’s grave in Johannesburg. Little did I expect maybe to visit his uncle’s grave in Cape Town. Many many thanks Janet Matthews
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