Careys of Rathkeale 1880s

[Sinann]

What was Richard/Jack's surname?

[T4Tim]

What was Richard/Jack's surname?

Richard John Allison McGuinness was always known as "Jack." See what I mean about them screwing up the names.

[T4Tim]

Now is that lot one or two families?

My head is swimming and I sure hope you are having fun with this. It is overwhelming but very much appreciated. We need a local with the family tree.

Another forum member sent this...
Your ancestor Eileen is mentioned as being present at death on death cert for her sister Mary,who died of TB in 1902.Both parents died in 1905

[Sinann]

I knew I'd seen a McGuinness but it wasn't Richard so didn't look at it
Married 1905 as John McGuinness
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1905/10184/5705527.pdf

[T4Tim]

I knew I'd seen a McGuinness but it wasn't Richard so didn't look at it
Married 1905 as John McGuinness
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1905/10184/5705527.pdf

Well now that's interesting because if we are right on birth dates, Eileen was a year older than Richard/Jack. There was an older brother John but he would have been 37 at the time of the marriage.

Here is the McGuinness 1901 census.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Clontarf_West/Crescent_Place/1270018/

[Sinann]

Father's are different

[Sinann]

and why Rockwell College?
Thoughts
William Carey won the schools cup with Blackrock
Richard John went to Rockwell College and the story has been mixed up
Richard John's father served in the Boer war not his son

[T4Tim]

Further to my last comment, according to the '01 census I linked, Richard's father was Patrick and was a working stiff.
The marriage paper you provided shows John's father as Robert and an Officer in the army.

So, did my pretty little Granny marry John and run off with Richard? In any case, Margaret dies Feb. James Apr. the will is dealt with in May, Eileen marries someone in October and....

I'm gonna wet myself with laughter here.   

[T4Tim]

Father's are different

Yes, we overlapped posts on that one.

and why Rockwell College?
Thoughts
William Carey won the schools cup with Blackrock
Richard John went to Rockwell College and the story has been mixed up
Richard John's father served in the Boer war not his son

Richard was definitely an Imperial Yeoman in Boer. Enlisted 1899 and out 1902.

Probably the college records of both Blackrock and Rockwell, would shed a lot of light on this.

One step forward and two back.

Near your bed time so I won't expect much more but I need to say it again. Thank you!