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David Copland and Ellen Douglas or Kenish
« on: Monday 06 November 17 20:27 GMT (UK) »
Trying to find any information regarding David Copland (Copeland on some info) born 1851 in Peterhead Aberdeenshire and his wife Ellen Douglas or Kenish born 1850 in Lockerley, Hampshire.  They were in West Wellow, Hampshire in 1901 but I can't find any trace of them after that can anyone help?  They had a nephew living with them also called David Copland born 1873 in Peterhead as far as 1891 Census. Thanks.
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Re: David Copland and Ellen Douglas or Kenish
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 November 17 22:12 GMT (UK) »
Just for some background:
Marriages September 1876   
David Copland    Dover   
Ellen Douglass     Dover   

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Ellen is 56 in 1901 and 46 in 1891, so born around 1845?

Ellen's first marriage:
Ellen Kemish age 22, married 26th December 1870 in Hougham Kent.
Father Samuel Kemish   Spouse  Samuel Douglass
So born around 1848

In 1851 there is a Samuel Kemish with wife Harriet daughter Priscilla (mmn Moody) and Ellen Moody age 9
This marriage, so Ellen born as Moody?
Marriages June quarter 1844 
Saml    Kemish    Romsey   
Harriet Moody     Romsey   

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This birth?
Sarah Ellen Moody       -     
GRO Reference: 1842  March quarter in Romsey and Mitchelmersh

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Re: David Copland and Ellen Douglas or Kenish
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 November 17 23:02 GMT (UK) »
A tree on Ancestry has him marrying Jessie Jaffray Duncan in 1918 in Aberdeen, and dying in Longside, Aberdeenshire in 1926.

Could be marriage to Jessie Jeffery Simpson on Scotlandspeople in St Nicholas

However, the death on Scotlandspeople looks to be this one:
David Scott Copland died age 74 in 1926 (so born 1851/1852) at Longside.

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Re: David Copland and Ellen Douglas or Kenish
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 November 17 23:19 GMT (UK) »
If David and Ellen went to Scotland, this could be her death:
Ellen Copland died age 65 in 1906, Balmaghie,  But very speculative.


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Re: David Copland and Ellen Douglas or Kenish
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 28 November 17 12:57 GMT (UK) »
Just a quick note to say Ellen is not the Ellen Kemish who appears in the GRO birth index for Q2 1841 in the Romsey district of Hampshire.  I've done quite a bit of research on the Kemish family over the years, and was sufficiently puzzled by this person that I ordered the birth certificate when the government were offering PDF certificates at a discount.  It turns out the entry has been misindexed.  In fact it is a boy named Allen Kemish who was born 8 May 1841 at Mottisfont, son of Robert Kemish, a blacksmith, and Louisa Kemish née Morgan.  That doesn't give you any new information, but hopefully it will stop you from going down that particular blind alley.

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Re: David Copland and Ellen Douglas or Kenish
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 December 17 08:28 GMT (UK) »
Thank you everyone still hunting them down  :)
Manson, Wilson, Copland, Craighead, Youngson, Ross, Thomson, Smith, Horn