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Re: Where did Harry Rawson come from?
« Reply #18 on: Friday 10 November 17 18:28 GMT (UK) »
Getting more bizarre - Thomas Rawson aka Stafford did indeed marry twice BUT not under either surname and fathers slightly different on each:

Thomas Stafford Jones, son of John Stafford, married Hannah Simpson 11/5/1856 Alfreton, Derbyshire - children registered as Stafford.   Hannah died 1862 (as already mentioned) and Thomas remarried to Sarah Bennett, same name as before:

Thomas Stafford Jones, son of Stafford Jones (?), and Sarah Bennett, dau. of John Bennett (?), June 1863 St.Michael, Coventry, Warwickshire - however, they both state they are single and his fathers name slightly different and hers should be John Wetherby not John Bennett!   Children registered as Stafford, mmn Wetherby which is correct.

So, back to Thomas Stafford/Jones/Rawson - appears to have been bc.1834 and 2 census state (Gt.) Rollright.    In 1851 he appears to be living there as Jones with parents John Jones and Hannah plus siblings.   Both John and Hannah are shown to be born in Northamptonshire.

Oxfordshire baptisms show Thomas Jones bp.30/3/1834 Rollright Great, son of John and Hannah.

So, where on earth do the names Stafford and Rawson come from??? 

Born Thomas Jones, Jones in 1841 and 1851 - married as Thomas Stafford Jones in 1856 but appears on 1861 census as Stafford.   Marries Sarah Bennett (both claiming to be single) once again as Thomas Stafford Jones but children registered as Stafford but he and family appear on census 1871/1881/1891/1901 as Rawson and he dies as Rawson.

All very odd!

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Re: Where did Harry Rawson come from?
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 11 November 17 06:20 GMT (UK) »
Can you please identify the 1851 census entry for John JONES, wife Hannah , your Thomas.......and siblings.

It might be possible to track the siblings to see what family name they use in life.

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Re: Where did Harry Rawson come from?
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 11 November 17 09:01 GMT (UK) »
The 1851 Census at Great Rollright is ref. HO107 - Piece 1732 - Folio 375 - Page 10.

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Re: Where did Harry Rawson come from?
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 11 November 17 22:40 GMT (UK) »
Wow!

I've been busy grabbing things off Fold3 while it's free, and everyone else has been chasing my Rawsons!

So the first owner of my car seems to have come from a family with a bit of a murky past. I must get this organised and then try to work out what they were hiding, or hiding from!
Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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Re: Where did Harry Rawson come from?
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 12 November 17 16:17 GMT (UK) »
So, Harry Rawson was born and baptised as Harry Stafford. One of his brothers, Arthur, born 1871, has "Lawson" written in at baptism entry, but then erased and "Stafford" written in, so Annette7 and avm228 have definitely got things well on the way to sorting out.

Harry (as Rawson!) joined the Midland Railway just after his 15th birthday, and worked his way up. It is now clear that the middle initial in his employment records was for "Stafford".
He transferred from the Derby station staff to the General Stores the year after joining the M.R. He became Clerk in Charge of the Orders Office in 1906.

In 1911, he was on £250 a year, and employing a servant at his home close to Borrowash station.

In 1923 his salary was high enough (£585) to warrant inclusion in the records for the mergers into the "big four" railway companies.

On 1st November 1926 he was made Carriage & Wagon Stores Controller, on £700 a year.

On 17th August 1927, he took delivery of a brand new Daimler 20/70, with bodywork by Sanderson & Holmes, of London Road, Derby (Telephone 8 Derby!). The chassis cost him £550, and with coachwork I reckon he spent about £1000 - around £48000 in today's money, at ordinary inflation figures. You had to be well off to own a Daimler. The Royal cars were Daimlers. Rolls Royce were just for the nouveau riche!

He did not keep the car long though. At the end of 1929 the car moved, via a dealer in Manchester, to Lancashire. Harry Rawson retired on 31st March 1931, to The Settlement, Ockbrook. He died in 1945, aged 63.

I wonder if Harry knew that quite a bit of his family came from Foleshill - the Daimler works was just down the road at Radford.

Dudley Pearson Bullough, the second owner of my car, made his money from the production of nuts and bolts. The company he was associated with, Bullough Fasteners in Atherton, merged in 1995 with Thomas Smith & Sons to form Smith Bullough, who are still making specialist nuts and bolts. I have yet to find a link with my own Bullough families, from nearby Westhoughton, but I keep trying!

Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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