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Thomson Birth Records
« on: Friday 10 November 17 02:31 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for birth registration or information for Helen about 1822, Archibald and John about 1825 and Alexander Thomson about 1830 born to James and Margaret ( Mc Lauchlan ) Thomson in Glasgow. I have a record of their father (James b 1799) but not any of the children. I have the 1841 and 1851 census Springburn, St David's, Glasgow.
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Re: Thomson Birth Records
« Reply #1 on: Friday 10 November 17 16:17 GMT (UK) »
Have you looked on the OPR's on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/search-our-records

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Re: Thomson Birth Records
« Reply #2 on: Friday 10 November 17 21:47 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your reply.
Yes I have looked using Scotlandspeople but will have another attempt.

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Re: Thomson Birth Records
« Reply #3 on: Friday 10 November 17 22:01 GMT (UK) »
James and Margaret married 7.8.1820 Barony - she is shown as McLachlane
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Re: Thomson Birth Records
« Reply #4 on: Friday 10 November 17 22:05 GMT (UK) »
I can't see any births on SP or Family Search between 1820-1835 for this couple
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Re: Thomson Birth Records
« Reply #5 on: Friday 10 November 17 22:16 GMT (UK) »
Yes that marriage information is correct. But there is no births listed for them yet their children are on the 1841 census?
Why were the births or christening not recorded? If they were where??


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Re: Thomson Birth Records
« Reply #6 on: Friday 10 November 17 22:54 GMT (UK) »
Can you please post the two census references for 1841/51?

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Re: Thomson Birth Records
« Reply #7 on: Friday 10 November 17 23:23 GMT (UK) »
Yes that marriage information is correct. But there is no births listed for them yet their children are on the 1841 census?
Quote common, unfortunately.
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Why were the births or christening not recorded? If they were where??
There can be any number of reasons why baptisms are not in the records
- maybe the parents just never got round to having them baptised
- maybe the parents didn't believe in child baptism
- maybe the session clerk forgot to write it down
- maybe the minister forgot to tell the clerk
- maybe the clerk wrote it down but made a mistake with the names
- maybe it was recorded but the register has not survived
- maybe the parents belonged to the Episcopal church, or some other denomination whose registers are lurking somewhere unknown

Estimates vary of the proportion of people whose baptisms were never recorded, or, if they were, have not survived. I have seen it suggested that 50% are missing, but I think this is on the high side for the country as a whole in the first half of the 19th century.

I have in my tree 3829 people born between 1800 and 1854, and I have failed to find the baptisms  of 1081 of those so far - that's 28%, or a little more than one in four. In Lanarkshire, I have 298 missing baptisms out of 1131 people, which is 26%.
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Re: Thomson Birth Records
« Reply #8 on: Friday 10 November 17 23:26 GMT (UK) »
1841 census, Springburn, StDavid's, Glasgow 644/1, Enumeration Book 160, page 5
1851 census, Springburn, St David's, Glasgow, 644/1, Enumeration Book 96, page 13

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