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Morgan Davies 'somewhere' in Merthyr Tydfil 1849
« on: Saturday 11 November 17 02:24 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone make sense of the address of the informant on this 1849 death certificate please? 

The deceased is Gwenllian Davies, 68, of Village, Aberdare, widow of Thomas Davies, Collier.  I think Thomas may have died in March 1841.

I'm trying to trace the family of James Davis/Davies who died aged 35 in February the same year and think this may be his mother, which potentially could make Morgan Davies a brother or uncle to James - if only I could locate him!

GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham. MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  JACKSON: East Yorks, North Yorks, Durham. TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Morgan Davies 'somewhere' in Merthyr Tydfil 1849
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 11 November 17 06:00 GMT (UK) »
Twynyrodyn
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Morgan Davies 'somewhere' in Merthyr Tydfil 1849
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 11 November 17 06:25 GMT (UK) »
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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Morgan Davies 'somewhere' in Merthyr Tydfil 1849
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 11 November 17 11:54 GMT (UK) »
Thank you!   

I still can't find him, but I'll try following a few possibilities and hopefully find a child born there. 

Unfortunately because James died before the 1851 census I've no idea where he - and therefore possibly Morgan - were born, other than 'Glamorgan', so I think this is going to be a long & expensive search!
GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham. MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  JACKSON: East Yorks, North Yorks, Durham. TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Morgan Davies 'somewhere' in Merthyr Tydfil 1849
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 November 17 12:17 GMT (UK) »
Jomot,

I think I have something on him, not any connection to me..but I have done a search for a friend here in Australia..looks to be same family


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Re: Morgan Davies 'somewhere' in Merthyr Tydfil 1849
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 11 November 17 12:29 GMT (UK) »
Jomot,
could it be Treorky Glamorgan..in parish of Ystradyfodwg
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Re: Morgan Davies 'somewhere' in Merthyr Tydfil 1849
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 11 November 17 12:33 GMT (UK) »
Sorry.
No don't think I have it right..sorry
the Gwen I have that marr a Thomas DAVIES..child born in 1897

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Re: Morgan Davies 'somewhere' in Merthyr Tydfil 1849
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 11 November 17 13:43 GMT (UK) »
Is this the family in 1841? There is a Morg: Davies next door down age 30 a tailor.

1841 - Aberdare Village, Aberdare, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales
Gwenllyan   Davies   Female   55   Glamorgan
James   Davies   Male   25   Glamorgan
Anne   Davies   Female   10   Glamorgan
William   Hern   Male   30   Ireland   

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Morgan Davies 'somewhere' in Merthyr Tydfil 1849
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 11 November 17 14:13 GMT (UK) »
Is this the family in 1841? There is a Morg: Davies next door down age 30 a tailor.

1841 - Aberdare Village, Aberdare, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales
Gwenllyan   Davies   Female   55   Glamorgan
James   Davies   Male   25   Glamorgan
Anne   Davies   Female   10   Glamorgan
William   Hern   Male   30   Ireland   

I think I need to give myself a good slap!  Yes, that's the family I was looking at but I was so distracted by the family on the other side, who I think may be related by marriage, that I didn't notice Morgan the Tailor  :-[

I'm more confused than ever now though as I'd found an 1851 Merthyr census for Morgan Davies aged 36 & born Aberdare, but he was a collier.  Living with him was a brother, Elias aged 31, and I see the Morgan you mention has a son named Elias.  HO107/2459/91/20

I'd also found an 1852 marriage for Ann Davies aged 21 with a father named as Morgan, but he was also collier.  Her address looked to me like Twynyrodyn - what do you think?
GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham. MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  JACKSON: East Yorks, North Yorks, Durham. TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.