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Re: Sack/Bernbaum marriage?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 13 November 17 19:04 GMT (UK) »
A possible for Jacob?

Mar Qtr 1909 Edmonton
SHAIRE Jacob 3a 678
Sussex, Burwash/Somerset/South London: PANKHURST/FABLING/GREEN/KING/PARROT/POPE/PEMBROKE
Notts/Leics/London: POLLARD/BELAND/FELLS/MORRISON/MARYSON/CLARKE
Northants: MARRIOT/T
Suffolk: LINGLY/LINGLEY/LINDLY/LINDLEY/ SEAGER /SIGGER/SEGGAR/VINCE
Gloucs: WINDOW Glamorgan: JENKINS Cardiganshire: JONES
Poland: OZIEMKIEWICZ France: LINETTE

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Re: Sack/Bernbaum marriage?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 13 November 17 19:13 GMT (UK) »
Sussex, Burwash/Somerset/South London: PANKHURST/FABLING/GREEN/KING/PARROT/POPE/PEMBROKE
Notts/Leics/London: POLLARD/BELAND/FELLS/MORRISON/MARYSON/CLARKE
Northants: MARRIOT/T
Suffolk: LINGLY/LINGLEY/LINDLY/LINDLEY/ SEAGER /SIGGER/SEGGAR/VINCE
Gloucs: WINDOW Glamorgan: JENKINS Cardiganshire: JONES
Poland: OZIEMKIEWICZ France: LINETTE

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Re: Sack/Bernbaum marriage?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 13 November 17 20:08 GMT (UK) »
Probably Jacob:
SACK, JACK    mmn   ACKMAN 
 1911  M Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 565   
 
 :-\ :-\ Is this  Lilly or Tilly?
SACK,(SAEK on FreeBMD) CHILE       mmn HUCKMAN 
1907  J Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 618

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Re: Sack/Bernbaum marriage?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 14 November 17 09:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi

There are these possible birth regs from FreeBMD:

Jun Qtr 1903 Edmonton (includes Tottenham)
SACH Solomon 3a 558 (I've included this in case Barnet/Rosa got a bit confused when filling in the form!)

Sep Qtr 1904 Whitechapel (includes Spitalfields)
ZACKS Solomon 1c 245

1911 Census taken on 2/4/1911.

I've had no luck with the others so far....  :-\

Gaie
I suspect we're up against spelling/transcription issues; Barnet and Rosa were from Kiev, after all. While searching for your matches in the GRO, I've only found this:

SAKS, SOLOMON        ZUDICMAN
GRO Reference: 1905  J Quarter in WHITECHAPEL  Volume 01C  Page 267

Which is "another one".

I haven't found either of your matches in the GRO yet.

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Re: Sack/Bernbaum marriage?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 14 November 17 09:12 GMT (UK) »
I have used FreeBMD's "Search Names"

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search-names.pl

to find phonetically similar names, at least in their transcription set.

I looked for ^(s|z)a(ch|k|ck)s?$ and found (with counts):

sach 3599
sachs 594
sack 895
sacks 557
sak 21
saks 101
zach 29
zachs 9
zack 172
zacks 65
zak 137
zaks 11

This is purely phonetic - if anyone knows more about Jewish names than I do, I'm more-than-open to suggestions and hints.

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Re: Sack/Bernbaum marriage?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 14 November 17 09:14 GMT (UK) »
I used a spreadsheet to sort the names by frequency

sach   3599
sack   895
sachs   594
sacks   557
zack   172
zak   137
saks   101
zacks   65
zach   29
sak   21
zaks   11
zachs   9

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Re: Sack/Bernbaum marriage?
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 14 November 17 09:26 GMT (UK) »
Are these your Barnet & Rose?

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C11816629
Frankly, you're as good a judge as I am. But it certainly looks right. Thank you.

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Re: Sack/Bernbaum marriage?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 14 November 17 10:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi

There are these possible birth regs from FreeBMD:

Jun Qtr 1903 Edmonton (includes Tottenham)
SACH Solomon 3a 558 (I've included this in case Barnet/Rosa got a bit confused when filling in the form!)

Sep Qtr 1904 Whitechapel (includes Spitalfields)
ZACKS Solomon 1c 245

1911 Census taken on 2/4/1911.

I've had no luck with the others so far....  :-\

Gaie
I've GRO'd the Whitechapel one;
ZACKS, SOLOMON        LEVINSON
GRO Reference: 1904  S Quarter in WHITECHAPEL  Volume 01C  Page 245

And found also this:
SAKS, SOLOMON        ZUDICMAN
GRO Reference: 1905  J Quarter in WHITECHAPEL  Volume 01C  Page 267

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Re: Sack/Bernbaum marriage?
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 14 November 17 10:13 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone find the GRO for this (from FreeBMD)

Births  Mar     1905    Sach    Becky           Edmonton        0       3a      595

Edit found it. Sort of!
SACH, BEEKY        AKERMAN
GRO Reference: 1905  M Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 595

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