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Offline carol80

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ITM Lookup please
« on: Sunday 12 November 17 21:57 GMT (UK) »
Have been trying to find family members on Paperspast.
Have come across a wedding of  Miss Hazel Thornhill to MR H Macdowell Smith. The Wedding took place at All Saints Church Gladstone 9 November 1915.
Would like the ITM if possible so i can confirm this as my Hazel.
Can not find a marriage on our BMD.
Many Thanks

Carol
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Re: ITM Lookup please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 November 17 22:03 GMT (UK) »
On ancestry
New Zealand, Marriage Index, 1840-1937
Hazel Rita Ursula Thornhill
Marriage Year:    1915
Marriage Place:    New Zealand
Spouse: Henry McDowell Smith
Relation: Bride (Wife)
Folio Number 9896

NZ BMD's
1915/7432   Hazel Rita Ursula Thornhill    to Henry McDowell    surname - Smith

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Re: ITM Lookup please
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 12 November 17 22:18 GMT (UK) »
Thank you. The ITM may name parent's and this is the only way i will know if she is mine. Too risky to get the certificate. Have already travelled the wrong road with this family (20 yrs ago)

Thank you for your time

Carol
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Stonehouse(York,Durham,Canada)Laurie(Scotland,York)Biddiss(All)Love(Scotland,Australia) Byers(Durham)Demaine(York)Dennison(York)Raine(Durham)Jefferson(Durham)Muir(Durham)
Johnston (Scotland)Hunter(Scotland)Johnson(York)
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Re: ITM Lookup please
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 12 November 17 22:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi I don't think parents names are in an ITM

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=714246.msg4544371#msg4544371

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Re: ITM Lookup please
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 12 November 17 23:03 GMT (UK) »
This may be her birth with a Mary instead of Rita

1885/16382   Thornhill    Hazel Mary Ursula    to Esther Annabella Flora and George John

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Re: ITM Lookup please
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 12 November 17 23:10 GMT (UK) »
At her death she reverts to Mary

1965/34550   Smith    Hazel Mary Ursula    80Y

Surname    SMITH
Forename    HAZEL MARY V
Age    80 Years
Gender    Female
Date of Death    27 Dec 1965
Place of Death    DUNEDIN
Last Address    2 WARDLAW STREET DUNEDIN
Funeral Director    Hope & Sons Ltd, P O Box 5013, Andersons Bay, DUNEDIN
Date of Cremation    29 Dec 1965
Type of Service    
Ashes Disposal    Scatter 30 Dec 1965
Occupation    
Place of Birth    
Date of Birth    Not recorded
Notes    Original reference:- C19651262
Occupation:- WIDOW

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Re: ITM Lookup please
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 12 November 17 23:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi Carol,

There is a school record for a Hazel Thornhill, attending Waihopai School, in 1891 with father being John Thornhill ..... using his middle name as found in Janette's Reply #4.


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Re: ITM Lookup please
« Reply #7 on: Monday 13 November 17 00:02 GMT (UK) »
To see if these are the parents as mentioned above. There are two options you could do.  If you aren't prepared to pay out dollars yet and the ITM will not show the parents names, you could try for the 1915 probate for George John Thornhill held at Wellington, which Spades may spy when he sees the subject title, and offers to get it for you, to see if Hazel is mentioned or ask for a look up of the mothers death notice in 1924 under the surname of Gourley.


https://icc.govt.nz/cemetery-result/?id=67365


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Re: ITM Lookup please
« Reply #8 on: Monday 13 November 17 00:09 GMT (UK) »
Thank you. The ITM may name parent's and this is the only way i will know if she is mine. Too risky to get the certificate. Have already travelled the wrong road with this family (20 yrs ago)

Thank you for your time

Carol

Hi Carol

The only time an ITM notice will record the name of a parent, is when one of the parties to the marriage is a "minor", and a parent is giving his / her permission for that minor to marry.

More detail for ITM notices can be found at following link >
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=714246.0

An Intention to Marry notice is not a substitute for a marriage record.
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You say if you have the parent's names ... "this is the only way I will know if she is mine" ?
"Have already travelled the wrong road with this family (20 yrs ago). "

*  Maybe if you can explain how you come to have the name of Hazel in your "tree" already, then we may be able to help you further (and save you the expense of unnecessary BDM "printouts" ).
 :)

   ~  Lu