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Look up request: Walter Scadding, James Scadding & family: 1861 census
« on: Monday 13 November 17 08:11 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for some information about my great grand-father, Walter Scadding, born abt 1844.  I found him in the 1851 census living with his parents, James Scadding (cabinetmaker) his mother, Izet and his sister Emily. Their address was 117 Well Road, Guernsey and in 1871 he was listed as a porter at the Royal Yacht Club Hotel.  He later worked as a steward on vessels working the Australian coast.
I think they may be connected to Scaddings in Somerset but cannot find a link to confirm this.
In his death certificate (he died in Australia) his mother's maiden name is Coombe/s - but on his marriage certificate to my g/grand-mother (his second wife, Martha Child) his mother's maiden name is Holmes. 
I was wondering if there is anything in the 1861 census or any records or details of his first wife/marriage. His Australian marriage certificate gives his marital status as widower. 
It seems that his parents may have come to Guernsey from England.  The origins of his parents have been a bit of a brick wall for some time.  Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

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Re: Look up request: Walter Scadding, James Scadding & family: 1861 census
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 November 17 08:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Welcome to rootschat

The GRO index has his possible birth registration

SCADDING, WALTER       mmn COOMBS     
1843  Sept Quarter - BRISTOL reg district Volume 11  Page 159

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
PDF copies of this certificate are currently available for £6 from that site
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Re: Look up request: Walter Scadding, James Scadding & family: 1861 census
« Reply #2 on: Monday 13 November 17 09:04 GMT (UK) »
To confuse matters
In 1841 James is in Bristol with wife Isset & daughter Emma

Emma's birth reg
SCADDING, EMMA       mmn WAGGETT     
1841  June Quarter in BRISTOL  Volume 11  Page 142

In 1851 he has a daughter Emily - her birth reg
SCADDING, EMILY       mmn WAGGETT     
1846  June Quarter in CLIFTON reg district  Volume 11  Page 289
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Re: Look up request: Walter Scadding, James Scadding & family: 1861 census
« Reply #3 on: Monday 13 November 17 09:39 GMT (UK) »

Baptism  N.Curry, Somerset James ( Cabinet Maker ) & Isett Scadding
19 Oct 1834 William Henry
"The wise man knows how little he knows, the foolish man does not". My Grandfather & Father.

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Re: Look up request: Walter Scadding, James Scadding & family: 1861 census
« Reply #4 on: Monday 13 November 17 09:49 GMT (UK) »

This looks interesting ?

Matches "age" 1841 and "geo" previous post . . . . .



 RG4: Registers B M D, Somerset, Independent,    Piece 1567: Taunton, Paul Street (Independent), 1699-1837 James son of James & Ann Scadding, of the parish of St James,
 
born Dec 28 1811, baptised July 20 1812


Now, what were we looking for?  ;D

 
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Re: Look up request: Walter Scadding, James Scadding & family: 1861 census
« Reply #5 on: Monday 13 November 17 10:29 GMT (UK) »
In case it helps
James Scadding
Isot    Waggot
Parish Trull, Somerset
25 Aug 1834
Grooms Residence Trull his occupation Cabinet Maker
Spouse's residence   Trull
Banns
witnesses   Mary Payne & Joseph Oaten

I wonder where the Coombs comes from on Walters certificate - you may need to purchase it to confirm his parentage
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Re: Look up request: Walter Scadding, James Scadding & family: 1861 census
« Reply #6 on: Monday 13 November 17 23:59 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both so much for your prompt response.  Still confused though.  I think there must be at least 2 James Scadding's and / or confusion with the maiden name of James' wife/Walter's mother. 
 I have a copy of Walter's Death certificate - he died in NSW, Australia 2 June 1896 and that says his mother was Eliza Coombs. The informant for the certificate was Martha, his wife.  Maybe she did not remember his mum's maiden name too well.
 I also have their marriage certificate, 6 April 1881, from Victoria, Australia. That says Walter was a widower since 1875 and born in Guernsey.
On the marriage cert his parents details are given as James Scadding, Cabinetmaker, and Iset Scadding (Holmes). 
I think that Holmes might be the more likely one, just because Walter was more likely to have given the details on that one rather than Martha.
Maybe Walter's mother was born in the Channel Islands?  It's a bit confusing at times I find  :-\

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Re: Look up request: Walter Scadding, James Scadding & family: 1861 census
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 14 November 17 06:39 GMT (UK) »
I think that the birth certificate is the one you need to confirm exactly who his parents are. 
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Re: Look up request: Walter Scadding, James Scadding & family: 1861 census
« Reply #8 on: Friday 17 November 17 01:21 GMT (UK) »
I think you are right, I'll have to bite the bullet and buy the certificate/s to find out for sure. Thanks again.