John Turner 1891 Census no trace

[Milliepede]

Maybe tracing Susan back would help.  They have an adopted daughter Annie in 1901.

If we could find her in 1891 to see if they had got together by then.

 

[DavyTee68]

Maybe tracing Susan back would help.  They have an adopted daughter Annie in 1901.

If we could find her in 1891 to see if they had got together by then.

Well on her marriage cert to John in 1899 it has her name as Susannah Major and father's name as John Bone
So I'm guessing that Major was her married name but maiden name is Bone
So could be really hard to find her

[Milliepede]

Ah so that was the right marriage then.  I was just offering it up as a suggestion (didn't realise you had the proof) 

Will have a look for her. 

There's a Hannah born right place right time with father John - what occupation did John Bone have please?

I realise all this isn't finding John Turner in 1891 but just in case it helps.

[Milliepede]

On one census the name is Bones so looked for a Susannah Bones marriage and there is this possible pairing

Mar 1854 Newcastle

Susannah Bones
Hance Magor or Major

That couple are together in 1871/1881/1891 but Susannah is older than the Susan in 1901 by 5 or 6 years.

Death for Hans Major in 1894 which would leave her free to marry as a widow in 1899.

So all that does nothing to find John Turner sorry 

[DavyTee68]

On one census the name is Bones so looked for a Susannah Bones marriage and there is this possible pairing

Mar 1854 Newcastle

Susannah Bones
Hance Magor or Major

That couple are together in 1871/1881/1891 but Susannah is older than the Susan in 1901 by 5 or 6 years.

Death for Hans Major in 1894 which would leave her free to marry as a widow in 1899.

So all that does nothing to find John Turner sorry 

Makes sense though Millie.
I don't actually have the Marriage cert just found an index on Familysearch and it mentioned father as John Bone.
That is the right marriage to John in 1899 though.
As has been said previous Mary Jane is living with William her son on the 1891 Census and shes down as married. Ive since found out from another Ancestry close relative that John was a bit of a player and had a mistress around this time.
I know Mary Jane died between 1891 and 1901.
I cant find her death though. The only Mary Jane Turner death index is a 5 year old.
John Turner is living and married to Susan on the 1901 census she is 62 on that census with Annie also living with them down as A Daughter

[DavyTee68]

Another family tree on ancestry has Mary Jane death as 1909 even more confusing giving that John says he's widowed 1901

Has anyone ever had a Nervous breakdown searching for relatives coz I'm close 

[glenclare]

I have been trying to find a birth for Annie, and William, but so far I haven’t found any I am convinced are right. With Annie born 1892 I thought it might help.

[DavyTee68]

I have been trying to find a birth for Annie, and William, but so far I haven’t found any I am convinced are right. With Annie born 1892 I thought it might help.

I think Annie and William were born Bell and adopted by John and Susan
Annie Bell 10b 292 1891 Newcastle upon Tyne
William Bell 10b 299 1895 Newcastle upon Tyne
There was another thread but not sure how I add threads to this post
John Morland Turner's Father, George Turner (b) 1820 married a Anne Bell so I'm guessing its something to do with her family

[Milliepede]

Another family tree on ancestry has Mary Jane death as 1909 even more confusing giving that John says he's widowed 1901

John is married to Susan in 1901 but is widowed by 1911.

Maybe Mary Jane married again too