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Re: Thomas John Pugsley
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 15 November 17 22:43 GMT (UK) »
What am I sure of - not a huge deal to be honest

My husband descends from his daughter Edith Mary and knows very little about that side of the family (he thinks she lived in Porth (definately Rhondda, he'e from Trefforest) but she died when he was little and his grandfather - Edith's son - vanished during the 60s) but obviously as her father died before her birth (Edith was born 30th August 1905)  I presume she didn't know,

His father's name is taken from his marriage certificate (as is the middle name - everything else he is just Thomas)

Benjamin is Edith's older brother - so I would say that is definately the grave thank you

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Re: Thomas John Pugsley
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 15 November 17 23:06 GMT (UK) »
At Thomas's death the surviving children were Thomas Edward (aged 9) Benjamin (aged 5) and Charles (aged 3) which fits with the article you so kindly posted, and Sarah must have been about 4 months pregnant with the twins (assuming they weren't premature) at his death

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Re: Thomas John Pugsley
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 15 November 17 23:21 GMT (UK) »
Can you give us the full information from the marriage certificate please - addresses, occupations, witnesses etc.  It may provide a fresh lead.
GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham. MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  JACKSON: East Yorks, North Yorks, Durham. TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Thomas John Pugsley
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 16 November 17 10:49 GMT (UK) »
Need to hunt it out - it's not at my house but as soon as I do I will post it
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Re: Thomas John Pugsley
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 16 November 17 11:13 GMT (UK) »
I had never heard of the name Pugsley until a few years ago, when I was tracing some Stephenson relatives in Edinburgh. In 1864 Elizabeth Stephenson pursued Charles Pugsley, sergeant-major in the Royal Artillery, in the Sheriff Court for money for the maintenance of their illegitimate daughter, born in 1863. The court found in Elizabeth's favour. To put the child's paternity beyond doubt, Elizabeth christened her Jane Ann Charlotte Pugsley Stephenson!

A distant relative managed to find Charles Pugsley's birth in 1831 in Harberton, Devon.

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Re: Thomas John Pugsley
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 16 November 17 13:04 GMT (UK) »


Burial details for Gillard if needed in Trealaw cem.

Cas

Would be much appreciated if you have them, thank you so much

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Re: Thomas John Pugsley
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 16 November 17 14:49 GMT (UK) »
1911 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW6Y-V95

Sarah parents were Edward & Ellen

Marriages Dec Q 1878   Same page
GILLARD    Edward        Pontypridd    11a   437    
WALTERS    Ellen        Pontypridd    11a   437    

Marriage online - think Sarah was born prior to marriage, age 3 in 1881, sister Mary age one, b Dec Q 1879.



Think I found her - birth registered as Sarah Ann WATERS in Pontypridd Dec 1877

On the 1939 register her birthdate is 31 October 1875, so realised if the date (but not the year) was right and she was 3 in Apr 1881 then she'd have been born 1877 not 1878.


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Re: Thomas John Pugsley
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 16 November 17 19:07 GMT (UK) »


Burial details for Gillard if needed in Trealaw cem.

There are only around 19 'Gillard' burials listed in index, if you have any particular names not in list below, will have another look.

The internment records can be had via any FH Library like Ponty or Aberdare, I had mine sent via email a long while ago, don't know if they still do, but you can ask via email if not in location.

Burial No 44619 Gillard Edward plot G962 age 79 died 1937

Others in same plot no G962 include:

Burial 13542 Gillard Thomas Watters age 11 mths died 1904 (think this must be Walters)
Burial 42151 Gillard Lea Helena age 77 died 1934
Burial 2900  Gillard Charles age 1 died 1890
Burial 13576 Gillard Alfred age 8mths died 1904

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Thomas John Pugsley
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 16 November 17 21:55 GMT (UK) »
Will they just email them all over then?

May pop into Ponty library and ask

Thank you very much