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Re: Thomas John Pugsley
« Reply #9 on: Monday 13 November 17 20:32 GMT (UK) »
Does the move from somerset to glamorganshire fit into other things you know about your family? The pugsley name is fairly common in that area of wales so perhaps there were family connections and also the area was a big coal mining area.

I know they were English and moved to Wales to work in the pits

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Re: Thomas John Pugsley
« Reply #10 on: Monday 13 November 17 20:32 GMT (UK) »
Have you discounted this one?

Births Mar 1868   
PUGSLEY    Thomas       
Williton    5c   355

I think I found him on the 1901 census so he's a different one, but thank you

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Re: Thomas John Pugsley
« Reply #11 on: Monday 13 November 17 20:33 GMT (UK) »
Only thing i can find in parish records is a John Thomas PUGSLEY   Baptism   06 May 1872   Somerset   Dulverton : All Saints : Parish Register   Row 6 parents john and elizabeth

I did think of him - unfortunately he dies as a baby

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Re: Thomas John Pugsley
« Reply #12 on: Monday 13 November 17 20:35 GMT (UK) »
The Pugsleys of Dulverton might nonetheless be still worth looking at . The groindex has mmn as Johns for John Thomas Pugsley. There is this marriage in Dulverton - May 20th 1872 Thomas Pugsley (widower) and  Elizabeth Johns but 1871 census has this

Thomas Pugsley 59 Ag lab widower
Elizabeth Johns 28 Step daughter unmarried
Frank Yeandle 5 Grandson

Address Higher Spire, Dulverton (baptism of JohnThomas High Spiers).

Possible death for above Thomas Puglsey 1876.

If nothing else a potentially intriguing set up!

William

I wonder - I did see a George Pugsley born 1874 who died in Pontypridd who I thought may be a brother - from Somerset - whose MMN was Yeandle (I think he was Earnest George) - but then couldn't find Thomas with them on the 1881 census

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Re: Thomas John Pugsley
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 15 November 17 16:47 GMT (UK) »
what information are you absolutely certain of?

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Re: Thomas John Pugsley
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 15 November 17 17:44 GMT (UK) »
He is buried Trealaw Cemetery

Burial No 14470 - Pugsley Thomas John Age 33 plot no M976 died 1905

Others in same plot number M976 include:

Burial No 9123 - Pugsley Lilly age 11 mths died 1899
Burial No 44697 - Pugsley Benjamin age 36 died 1937

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Thomas John Pugsley
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 15 November 17 18:06 GMT (UK) »
1911 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW6Y-V95

Sarah parents were Edward & Ellen

Marriages Dec Q 1878   Same page
GILLARD    Edward        Pontypridd    11a   437    
WALTERS    Ellen        Pontypridd    11a   437    

Marriage online - think Sarah was born prior to marriage, age 3 in 1881, sister Mary age one, b Dec Q 1879.

Burial details for Gillard if needed in Trealaw cem.

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Thomas John Pugsley
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 15 November 17 18:32 GMT (UK) »
Still no nearer to finding his origins, but he died in a colliery accident

http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3828841/3828847/59/Thomas%20Pugsley%20%20AND%20Pugsley

Seems Sarah was having twins.

Name:   Mother's Maiden Surname:    
PUGSLEY, EDITH  MARY     GILLARD     
GRO Reference: 1905  D Quarter in PONTYPRIDD  Volume 11A  Page 558   

PUGSLEY, LILIAN       GILLARD     
GRO Reference: 1905  D Quarter in PONTYPRIDD  Volume 11A  Page 558   

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Thomas John Pugsley
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 15 November 17 18:53 GMT (UK) »
Sarah remarried

1911 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW6R-N6C

Marriages Sep Q 1910   
Coxley    Evan        Pontypridd    11a   1033    
Pugsley    Sarah A        Pontypridd    11a   1033    
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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall